nick_md wrote:

I haven't followed the developments either much and I find MS approach by far the most confusing: Xbox X, XboxOneS, Xbox Series X, Series XS, Xbox One+Sx, Lockhart Series OneXPro :shrug:

hunk wrote:

Aye, ms is absolutely awful with their naming convention. Just stick to a numbering scheme and S and X. Much clearer. The new xbox series S model is about setting a 1080p baseline for next gen to make consoles more accessible to newcomers and casuals. Sony may or may not follow suit by re-releasing, updating and rebranding their current Pro model complete with fancy SSD.

g.man wrote:

hunk wrote:

Aye, ms is absolutely awful with their naming convention. Just stick to a numbering scheme and S and X. Much clearer. The new xbox series S model is about setting a 1080p baseline for next gen to make consoles more accessible to newcomers and casuals. Sony may or may not follow suit by re-releasing, updating and rebranding their current Pro model complete with fancy SSD.

Can you point me at a source where this is stated as anything other than speculation please?

hunk wrote:

GurtTractor wrote:

It won’t be One X level, as the One X is capable of 4K output and puts out 6 teraflops from the gpu. The Lockhart spec is said to be a 4 teraflop gpu. I don’t know enough about these things, but people who do have said that’s the case. It’s a step backwards in terms of gpu output, hence the view it will do 1080p only, but will be more powerful/faster in terms of cpu and ssd.

You can't compare teraflops across different architectures and generations, new silicon will perform better than a simple 'flops comparison would suggest. I haven't looked too in depth as there's little point with unconfirmed rumours but I would very much wager that a new S would perform on par with the current One X - It's basically going to be like having a two PCs of pretty much the same spec but with one having a cheaper GPU, not a bad idea at all for cost saving. The one thing I'm not sure about is the amount of RAM, I guess a lower end model would need less for VRAM as the texture settings would be reduced, but I don't know if only having 8GB would impact system performance in other ways.

DF is spot on again.
It's curious how their simulated Lockhart Navi2 setup kindof delivers 1080p/60Hz for the popular current hi end AAA titles. That's definitely not a coincedence. MS doesn't want to place all of its next gen eggs into one sku hence Lockhart/Scarlett. Who knows, with the aftermath of Covid19 it's certainly a sensible strategy. Unless Sony's willing to go low, very low in price.

Lockhart (next gen seriesS) is obviously designed to match and eventualy replace xbox1x. Curious as to how this will play out in the long run. I can see the forum and hc gamers ignoring this release favoring seriesX/PS5 but as a strategic move this makes a lot of sense and might impact next gen in an unexpected manner.

g.man wrote:

So all this is pure speculation then?