The Greatest Hit. RIP - The Bear and Badger

ChopperByrne

Live, it has to be Seek and Destroy.

Recorded tracks is The Unforgiven.

hylian_elf

Will have a deep think but my fave is between:

Ride the Lightning
Master of Puppets
Enter Sandman
The Unforgiven
One

Well I like a lot of other tracks too but these come to mind straight away.

Facewon

There's some belters on a number of albums, but man, the black album production is head and shoulders above their 80s stuff.

Also helps it dropped when I was still playing drums big time. I played that album to death, where I could. (those sped up triplets on sad but true messed with me hard)

Black album reminding me that Lars is a bit of a ringo. Kinda rated, but also hated. His parts on black album are unfuckwithable.

One is an all timer. (ruined any time they did it live. His double kick work was/is sloppy as all fuck.)

Big soft spots for nearly all of master.

Justice is flawed but has some crackers too.

And peak live of earlier stuff is good value.

Won't be visiting anything late period except maybe s&m. Shout out to Jim.

regmcfly

It must be the same for some of my favourite artists about fucking cliches,
Eg pulp - *Sheffield accent* standing in your room, wanting to see your mother's knickers.

Or

Bruce Springsteen - Mary living down next to the coal mine, working for a dime a day

.or the like, but Metallica do make me chortle in their lyrics. I can't hear "OFF TO NEVER NEVER LAND" without doing at least a guffaw.

I_R

I think I overdid some of the earlier stuff back in the day, or I got older and less metal. Thing is, I don't love any of the later albums that much, some great tracks though. apart from St Anger, what the fuck was that all about?

Saw them at the SECC in 92, they were solid, but hardly amazing. The live stuff they fire onto youtube these days seems much more polished than they used to be apart from the solos.

Bob

Something from reload - I’ll get back to you

regmcfly

Yeah I've not heard many people who have said they're a defining live act, but they sure produced some gold noise.

Bob

Can we include Lulu?

Diluted Dante

Face, I'd try Death Magnetic, or at least All Nightmare Long off it.

cockbeard

Fuck them

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jul/19/live-nation-metallica-tickets-resale-sites-concerts

regmcfly

cockbeard wrote:

Fuck them

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jul/19/live-nation-metallica-tickets-resale-sites-concerts

Fuckin telt ye.

Also Death Magnetic is alright.

RedDave2

cockbeard wrote:

Fuck them

https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jul/19/live-nation-metallica-tickets-resale-sites-concerts

Can I be the dummy here, what's the advantage for a band to put tickets directly on a resale site? Do they get a cut of that sale as well?

Diluted Dante

Presumebly. That link states Metallica delegated ticked stuff to someone else, which I'd expect any stadium act to be doing, so I guess they just get income labelled as "Live Events" or something. Their cut will likely be a straight percentage, so the bigger the pot the more they get.

cockbeard

RedDave2 wrote:

cockbeard wrote:

Fuck them https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jul/19/live-nation-metallica-tickets-resale-sites-concerts

Can I be the dummy here, what's the advantage for a band to put tickets directly on a resale site? Do they get a cut of that sale as well?

aaahh, it's not in that piece but another at the time, did mention monies paid to the band or bands reps, in return for these tickets, Also scarcity increases demand, so it benefits the band in helping to sell out the tours

Facewon

regmcfly wrote:

It must be the same for some of my favourite artists about fucking cliches, Eg pulp - *Sheffield accent* standing in your room, wanting to see your mother's knickers. Or Bruce Springsteen - Mary living down next to the coal mine, working for a dime a day .or the like, but Metallica do make me chortle in their lyrics. I can't hear "OFF TO NEVER NEVER LAND" without doing at least a guffaw.

Some of their lyrics reach dumb awesome. "got some death to do" from Sanitarium is awesome.

Moot_Geeza

regmcfly wrote:

Bruce Springsteen - Mary living down next to the coal mine, working for a dime a day .

YES.

Gremill

Metallica were a band that I was obsessed with through my teenage years, Ride the Lightning was the first vinyl album I ever bought and I must've played And Justice For All about a million times. Had all of the VHS tapes I could get my hands on (the video for One being a favourite). I loved the Master of Puppets album and when Black came out I loved that too, at least initially - went to see them at the SECC in '92 and I think that was when the rot started to set in.

They were so average, especially compared to some of the other bands I was seeing at the time and seeing Lars Ulrich playing live remains one of my biggest disappointments. He was fucking dogshit. He clearly couldn't play most of the stuff to the degree of complexity of the albums and the band as a whole were just a collection of walking clichés. Spinal Tap without the self awareness.

Anyway, I ended up binning my copy of Black and I don't think I've listened to them since. I've tried to, but just can't do it, they make my skin crawl. And for that reason, I'm out.

Roujin

Most of the biggies ashtray been covered so I'll give an honorary shout out to Nothing Else Matters, even though it's a bit cheesy I do enjoy a listen.

Anyway the real best thing is the Dance With The Dead remix of MoP so enjoy.

RedDave2

Gremill wrote:

Metallica were a band that I was obsessed with through my teenage years, Ride the Lightning was the first vinyl album I ever bought and I must've played And Justice For All about a million times. Had all of the VHS tapes I could get my hands on (the video for One being a favourite). I loved the Master of Puppets album and when Black came out I loved that too, at least initially - went to see them at the SECC in '92 and I think that was when the rot started to set in. They were so average, especially compared to some of the other bands I was seeing at the time and seeing Lars Ulrich playing live remains one of my biggest disappointments. He was fucking dogshit. He clearly couldn't play most of the stuff to the degree of complexity of the albums and the band as a whole were just a collection of walking clichés. Spinal Tap without the self awareness. Anyway, I ended up binning my copy of Black and I don't think I've listened to them since. I've tried to, but just can't do it, they make my skin crawl. And for that reason, I'm out.

I still enjoy them immensly but I completely get where you coming from (well, maybe not the lars thing. I have heard way worse performances from drummers but thats beside the overall point) Some kind of Monster only enhances the Spinal Tap comparisson.

But overall I find metal, much as I enjoy it, to be one of the most childest of musical genres. The imagery, the machoness of so much of it (especially the stuff from the Metallica heyday - Megadeth, Slayer, Sepultura etc.) It's a really immature idea but wrapped up in some good (but not early as good as it thinks) musicianship.

Still get a kick out of it, but it does not age well.

trippy

cockbeard wrote:

Fuck them https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/jul/19/live-nation-metallica-tickets-resale-sites-concerts

So long as it keeps them in therapy I'm all for it.

Gremill

RedDave2 wrote:

Gremill wrote:

Metallica were a band that I was obsessed with through my teenage years, Ride the Lightning was the first vinyl album I ever bought and I must've played And Justice For All about a million times. Had all of the VHS tapes I could get my hands on (the video for One being a favourite). I loved the Master of Puppets album and when Black came out I loved that too, at least initially - went to see them at the SECC in '92 and I think that was when the rot started to set in. They were so average, especially compared to some of the other bands I was seeing at the time and seeing Lars Ulrich playing live remains one of my biggest disappointments. He was fucking dogshit. He clearly couldn't play most of the stuff to the degree of complexity of the albums and the band as a whole were just a collection of walking clichés. Spinal Tap without the self awareness. Anyway, I ended up binning my copy of Black and I don't think I've listened to them since. I've tried to, but just can't do it, they make my skin crawl. And for that reason, I'm out.

I still enjoy them immensly but I completely get where you coming from (well, maybe not the lars thing. I have heard way worse performances from drummers but thats beside the overall point) Some kind of Monster only enhances the Spinal Tap comparisson.

But overall I find metal, much as I enjoy it, to be one of the most childest of musical genres. The imagery, the machoness of so much of it (especially the stuff from the Metallica heyday - Megadeth, Slayer, Sepultura etc.) It's a really immature idea but wrapped up in some good (but not early as good as it thinks) musicianship.

Still get a kick out of it, but it does not age well.

Big agreement with that. I still listen to some metal (I was listening to Seasons in the Abyss yesterday) and a lot of other more extreme variants of the genre but I can only do small doses really, most of it makes me cringe. With Metallica, that disappointment with them was just compounded by everything they've done since both as a group/'brand' (which is what they are now) and all the shit trust Ulrich and Hetfield regularly come out with. They're a pair of monstrous cunts.

regmcfly

This celebration went well.

g.man

They are just such nice guys.

The Daddy

I'm just gonna chuck my vote in for Enter Sandman. First heard it playing some shitty homemade space invaders clone, was fun trying to identify it. Then borrowed the black album from a mate at school and really enjoyed it, didn't really stick with them though. Years later I found an S&M disc in a computer at uni, despite my disappointment that it didn't contain porn, I did enjoy it and stilll listen to that album occasionally.

g.man

Is S&M the one they did with an orchestra?

RedDave2

g.man wrote:

They are just such nice guys.

Apparently they were really nice to Jason Newstead while he was bassist.

Still, I have to consider myself a big fan. As said, St Anger aside, I like most of their stuff. I'm actually a big fan of the Load/ Reload/ Garage Days Revisited sound. No, it's not as good as the peak of Master of Puppers/ Ride the Lightning/ Black Album, but it stand well alongside Death Magnetic, Justice for All and Hardwired. I also thought they were a good live act in the same manner as Foo Fighters or Bon Jovi (and I'd imagine Oasis). Not so much great performance but usually a very up for it crowd with a Band who got the crowd to sing along.

I've seen them far too many times Live at this point and I cant see myself going to see them ever again but I did think their tour of the Load album was a great live show. Halfway through the set, the stage (a 360 custom stage which was unique at the time) collapses, including with a guy set on fire jumping from scaffolding. Then the lights go dark and as they come back, the band are lit by a cool stripped down lights and play a load of covers. Whiskey in the Jar was an obvious highlight that night

Gremill

regmcfly wrote:

This celebration went well.

Ok, ok, I'll shut up.

g.man

I never understood why in the blue hell they thought it was any sort of good idea to release that documentary about them all being in band therapy.
Now as adults, we all pretty much get the idea that the vast majority of huge recording artists are in fact all monstrous arseholes behind the scenes, but if the music is good, then you can generally suspend disbelief and just enjoy the choons, but to put out a film that doubles down on showing just what a bunch of grade A fuck-clowns you are, while coinciding with a career threatening nosedive in musical form, demonstrated quite breathtaking levels of hubris.

Facewon

Taylor Hawkins > Lars. Jussayin.

trippy

The apple I'm currently eating > Lars. Jussayin.

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