DEMON'S SOUUULLLSSS - The Bear and Badger

Minnesänger

That boss is the jankiest fucker. Keep trying and eventually you’ll get through.

Tempy

I think Demon's Souls has the most gimmick bosses in it at 5. People don't tend to like them so each iteration of the series seems to have had less over time, but I miss them, they added a whole lot to Demon's.

Minnesänger

Aye. It’s all i-Frame dodge boys now. And that’s cool, it’s where the series has gone, but I’m also a fan of the way Demon’s handled bosses.

cosmicjellybean

I think I liked Demon's level structure more than Dark souls open metroid-esque take. They are largely teh same but the interconnected world in Dark Souls means it's like one big sprawling level, rather than tackling a single level in Demon's souls and getting a boss fight at the end of it. Seems much better suited to how I play these days.

b0r1s

cosmicjellybean wrote:

I'm really sorry but I can't get over your avatar Boris... I keep thinking Burke is having these issues and I'm like 'good, you deserve it'.

You shouldn't do this to yourself.

Ha ha.

Well you’ll be pleased to know I got invaded again. This time as I was heading to spider boss. Fucker had poison and bleeding weapons.

Is everyone else getting invaded? I don’t recall this happening as much before or in any of the Souls games.

Minnesänger

Souls games are usually pretty invasion heavy around launch, from my experience.

b0r1s

That’s probably it. Pretty sure this is the only one I got at launch.

Minnesänger

If you need human form for the health in the boss fight, maybe hold off popping a stone of ephemeral eyes until you’re at the gate. You should only be invadable in human form.

b0r1s

Yeah. Tbh I think I’ll be ok. Got cling ring so not too bad.

acemuzzy

Yeah I've not been invaded, but I've mainly been hollow...

Kernowgaz

When I kill a boss I go into the Nexus and jump off

Kernowgaz

cosmicjellybean wrote:

Ahhhh, yeah attunes, j in think you get more slots by levelling intelligence? That might just be more mana though...

Cheers, I’ll have to farm and build my intelligence, good job it’s not real life I’d be fucked.

acemuzzy

Can't decide to properly go and read up on tendancy stuff. One of my archstones is looking pretty white. But can't remember what it unlocks. And the ones where I can vaguely remember what it unlocks aren't as white as of expect. Sad times.

acemuzzy

And the upgrade paths. Need to decide about that a bit too. Hmm.

Kernowgaz

acemuzzy wrote:

Can't decide to properly go and read up on tendancy stuff. One of my archstones is looking pretty white. But can't remember what it unlocks. And the ones where I can vaguely remember what it unlocks aren't as white as of expect. Sad times.

I’ve not idea what any of it means on the tendency screen

b0r1s

Basically black is bad. I’ve discovered that. Keep dying (in human form) and the world goes black. Then black phantoms turn up to make your life even more miserable. Not sure what a white world benefits the player?

g.man

This all sounds very racist to me.

Dubs

I did a Demon's Souls primer for the Dark Souls thread OP which I assume is still mostly relevant.

The World Tendency bit:

Spoiler:

g.man

That's one hell of an OP Dubs. Bravo Sir!

b0r1s

Yep. Looks at Muzzy’s effort in this thread :-(

g.man

Classic Muzzy.

Dubs

This thread doesn't have any of the original's mood and atmosphere.

b0r1s

[Deleted User]

All that original thread detail, (methinks) sans Germanic heritage: Dubs === ...Souls legend.

Kernowgaz

Leave Muzzy alone, he’s Ace :-)

stonechalice

Dubs wrote:

I did a Demon's Souls primer for the Dark Souls thread OP which I assume is still mostly relevant.

The World Tendency bit:

Spoiler:

Dubs wrote:

World Tendency

This is essentially a sliding scale, between Black and White, which influences difficulty, item drops and special events. Each world's tendency is separate and certain actions within a world can influence its tendency. Changes take effect when you return to the Nexus.

White World Tendency: decreases enemy HP, attack power and defence. More chance of healing items being dropped, lower chance of upgrade stones and rare items being dropped. Attack power increased in Soul Form which stacks with Character Tendency.

Black World Tendency: increases enemy HP, defence and attack power. Your max. HP in Soul Form is reduced, enemies hold more souls and are more likely to drop stones and rare items. In addition to these effects, special events and enemies will appear at the extremes: Pure White or Pure Black.

Wiki page (spoilers).

Character Tendency

"Stay the path, and you will soon be a monster yourself! Can't you see you've fallen for their trap?"

Like the above but for your character, so it carries between worlds and game cycles. Killing black phantom NPCs and invaders will move it towards White, making the game easier by increasing your attack power in Soul Form. Killing Body Form NPCs (including merchants and the like) will move it towards Black, reducing your HP while in Soul Form. Special events occur when Pure Black or Pure White Character Tendency is achieved.

Wiki page

"All done? Good day. Be sure not to get yourself killed"[/center]

Ah man, great waves of nostalgia browsing that Dubs.

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acemuzzy

Yup top work!

So does killing a boss as a bit demon +1 world (and character) tendency? Or only in your own world? Helping others should be an easy way to get to pure white, right?

Anyone know if it's still need on an online session on the remaster? Or is it stickier now, if I quit the game??

Officer_V

Only put an hour or so in last night, and its an absolute stunner, but I still just don't get it. Just end up having no clue where I'm going or what I'm doing. Vanguard Demon did me in so I went to some magical place and then came back shiny with no idea why or what the hell was happening. Killed some more baddies and then got bored so thought come back fresh tomorrow.

acemuzzy

That's kinda expected at the start. So you went through the first archstone that sounds like? With a big closed door in front of you? That's where things begin, yup, take it slow and steady to start with, you kinda got explore, the first bit is pretty linear till your on some ramparts, then there's a bit of decision making required... Once the next boss is down though, the real Demon's Souls begins and you can go wherever you want...

Officer_V

acemuzzy wrote:

That's kinda expected at the start. So you went through the first archstone that sounds like? With a big closed door in front of you? That's where things begin, yup, take it slow and steady to start with, you kinda got explore, the first bit is pretty linear till your on some ramparts, then there's a bit of decision making required... Once the next boss is down though, the real Demon's Souls begins and you can go wherever you want...

Yeah I went through the archstone directly behind the other shiny dude.

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