Star Trek - The Bear and Badger

Time_on_my_hands

Every Trek officer looks better with a beard. Spock's just the only one to go from beard to clean shaven.

b0r1s

Janeway’s looked shit.

Dinostar77

Bearded spock looked badass, shaved spock looks like a pedo.

superflyninja

Dinostar77 wrote:

Bearded spock looked badass, shaved spock looks like a pedo.

this.this made me chortle

Paul the sparky

Finished this last night. A lot of the WTF moments from the finale have been covered already so I'll not bother going over them again. Entertaining, nonsensical fluff. Does the job for a Star Trek casual like me I suppose, not sure how it will sit with the hard core fans.

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superflyninja

Can any of you wise folks furnish me with an explanation for this:

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poprock

superflyninja wrote:

Can any of you wise folks furnish me with an explanation for this:

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The Signals.

Nope. It’s all hokum.

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Paul the sparky

I didn't understand any of that signal stuff either.

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Dinostar77

Explanation

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mannaboy

Re the signals:

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Paul the sparky

Seems fair enough. Should have paid more attention.

superflyninja

After a quick Google, seems the rest of the internet is as clueless as we are about the signals.

I had to laugh at one part though:

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mannaboy

We’re probably putting too much thought into this, certainly more than the show’s writers.

Vela

I finished season 1 of Discovery last night. Its pretty enjoyable, bar a few mildly irritating characters.

The one general complaint I have is that things get resolved quite neatly and with a minimum of fuss. Usually if they say "this is the plan" then it goes to plan without a hitch. If not, there is only one mid-level checkpoint and they are on the home straight again with a mid-boss fight at most. Even the mistakes, it turns out, like say, an incapacitated crew member with a macguffin in their care, lead directly to victory.

The season was saved by probably three elements: two twists that were cleverly done; a generally consistent committment to a general philosophy; and a handful of sympathetic characters. Its just a shame that the challenges were so easily overcome that the principles weren't adequately tested.

Overall its about on par with a weaker series of Stargate Atlantis. Moderate risk, moderate reward.

3 smug Baal's out of 5.

Diluted Dante

superflyninja wrote:

After a quick Google, seems the rest of the internet is as clueless as we are about the signals. I had to laugh at one part though:

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The photon torpedo and the blast door. Two things, that a blast door can shield the ship from a photon torpedo exploding mere feet away and that the only way to close the door was from the inside.

This does make sense.

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superflyninja

Diluted Dante wrote:

superflyninja wrote:

After a quick Google, seems the rest of the internet is as clueless as we are about the signals. I had to laugh at one part though:

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The photon torpedo and the blast door. Two things, that a blast door can shield the ship from a photon torpedo exploding mere feet away and that the only way to close the door was from the inside.

This does make sense.

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The ships hull had been weakened by the battle, which is how the torpedo penetrated it. The blast door being closed means that only a section of the ship would be destroyed. If it were open, the energy of the blast is funneled into the ship. The reason it can only be closed from inside is that there is a physical door release inside, and not outside. From outside you need to close it via the computer, and the relevant circuitry was destroyed.

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tin_robot

superflyninja wrote:

Diluted Dante wrote:

superflyninja wrote:

After a quick Google, seems the rest of the internet is as clueless as we are about the signals. I had to laugh at one part though:

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The photon torpedo and the blast door. Two things, that a blast door can shield the ship from a photon torpedo exploding mere feet away and that the only way to close the door was from the inside.

This does make sense.

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The ships hull had been weakened by the battle, which is how the torpedo penetrated it. The blast door being closed means that only a section of the ship would be destroyed. If it were open, the energy of the blast is funneled into the ship. The reason it can only be closed from inside is that there is a physical door release inside, and not outside. From outside you need to close it via the computer, and the relevant circuitry was destroyed.

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But why would there not be a physical door release on both sides? Plot reasons IMO.
The torpedo would explode in a spherical shape Id imagine, even if the blast door withstood the explosion, all around would get blown to bits. If a blast door can withstand the point blank impact of a photon torpedo blast, they should make the whole ship out of blast doors

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Diluted Dante

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EvilRedEye

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Dinostar77

Anyone remember StarTrek movie generations? Where the Klingons hacked geordi's visor and saw the shield frequency for the enterprise? One photon torpedo straight through the shields destroyed the enterprise.

However on discovery

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monkey

Original Enterprise couldn’t split.

n0face

I thought it was brilliant good fun. Would watch more.

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EvilRedEye

In Generations, the warp core breach was due to general engineering issues potentially caused by both photon torpedoes and disruptor fire hitting the stardrive section (disruptor blasts hit a warp nacelle), not just a direct hit from a torpedo.

Original Enterprise could execute saucer separation (referred to in The Apple episode of TOS and actually executed in Beyond) but it was just a basic emergency function and the ship wasn't really built for it so it probably would have been strategically counterintuitive in the situation we're discussing.

EvilRedEye

damn you dante

EvilRedEye

Also, I think saucer separation in TOS was only ever really discussed in terms of getting rid of the stardrive section. We don't really know if a Constitution stardrive section can meaningfully function without the saucer.

Dinostar77

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Original Enterprise couldn’t split.

Yes it could. Was never filmed as it was too costly for them to do in the 60s.

Edit: EvilRedEye answered it

Time_on_my_hands

I'm re watching DS9 at the moment. Oh those simple days when the most convoluted thing was Garak's lying to get out of lunch with Bashir.

Dinostar77

Time_on_my_hands wrote:

I'm re watching DS9 at the moment. Oh those simple days when the most convoluted thing was Garak's lying to get out of lunch with Bashir.

My favourite trek series. Ahead of its time. There is a Garak novel which covers his time with the Obsidain Order which adds to his backstory

Yossarian

I’m currently slowly working through Voyager. I like the setup, being cut off and lost in unknown space. It adds a lot. Only on the second series so far, though.

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