I haven’t read all the stuff behind the links and watched all the vids so this isn’t the most informed take. That’s some equipment failure though, to display the precise thing that two pilots claim they saw at the time.

It’s interesting (to me at least) that we’re still in the X-Files mindset of thinking that the slightest hint of aliens activity is going to be closed down and classified. Why? Do we think that there’s legit evidence of aliens that the US govt is sitting on? If not why are we so sure that any real stuff wouldn’t possibly make its way into the public domain?

Anyway, who knows. I’ve always been able to place stuff into a mental box labelled ‘Unknown’ without causing any discomfort.

The report doesn't mention radar failure of any kind, on the ships, plane, helicopter and jets which would explain away everything but the human testimonies.

What if it's Cthulhu?

I feel the same when watching monochrome video of airstrikes. Didn't they have colour in 2004?

Yossarian wrote:

Presumably the report doesn’t mention aliens either, if not being mentioned in the report is grounds for ruling something out.

It mentions the visual contact, size, speed, manoeuvrability, no visible system of lift or propulsion, instrument jamming, possible cloaking ability, intelligent behaviour, and decryption of classified rendezvous points by the object but not aliens, no.

That summary doesn’t rule out equipment failure.

The objects were witnessed moving to me, to you and back again.

So after the fortnight work up, off to the Gulf war everyone went, knowing their fifteen billion dollar carrier, support ships, radar planes, helicopters and fighter jets had massive equipment failure at the same time and their aircrew hallucinating, sorry, lying their asses off and didn't think to put it the investigating report five years later? Right-o.

bad_hair_day wrote:

Goobs, they weren't supposed to be released a Pentagon spokesperson said.

'...the videos may have been improperly released by a former Pentagon employee who had applied for permission to share them across several government agencies as part of a database on unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) he was allegedly compiling. The man received permission to share the videos for "[US Government] Use Only," paperwork obtained by The Black Vault shows. However, Navy officials never declassified the footage for public release, Gradisher said.'

https://www.livescience.com/navy-ufo-videos-authentic-classified.html

US government use only is the same as OFFICIAL in the UK. In the UK everything produced by a government employee should be graded official. It is not a secret document. If you lost an official document on public transport very few people would care. If you lost a secret or top secret document on public transport you could quite possibly go to prison.

Diluted Dante wrote:

We sent people to Iraq with guns that jammed in the desert and body armour that didn't stop bullets, so that actually does sound right to me.

Don't forget boots that melted in the heat.

Ah, I thought was us. Oh well the memory of it gave me a giggle.

bad_hair_day wrote:

So after the fortnight work up, off to the Gulf war everyone went, knowing their fifteen billion dollar carrier, support ships, radar planes, helicopters and fighter jets had massive equipment failure at the same time and their aircrew hallucinating, sorry lying their asses off and didn't think to put it the investigating report five years later? Right-o.

The equipment failure may not have been all that massive, nor that hard to to fix. False positives in sensitive measuring equipment could simply be a calibration issue.

And I’d be amazed if the pilots reported seeing things with their bare eyes at the time, this part feels very much like a later embellishment to me.

Let’s put this back the other way, BHD.

They’ve been reading these signals for days (weeks?) beforehand. Why do you think the first time they bother to investigate it is when there are a couple of aircraft kicking about after a training exercise? Why wasn’t it the case that, as multiple craft suddenly appear off the coast of the USA, having apparently descended from space, US aircraft were immediately sent to check it out?

“We’re really worried about these 5-10 craft that keep arriving. What have we done about it? Um...”

He can't see anything at the merge plot. Looks below and see's white water about the size of a 737, tells the wingman to remain at 18k and circles down then they spot the white craft.

Now I'm speculating here, was the unknown the Princeton/Spy plane tracked submerged, and the 46 foot Tic Tac a decoy? Because if so, it did a pretty good job.

Wink away!