Facewon wrote:

Being one of 22 on the pitch would be a real interesting dymnamic. Can imagine it could get frustrating. NBA2k has had it for a while, but being one of 10 and 5 a side in a much smaller area means it's far less waiting.

It depends what position you play to some extent. I've been playing on the left of a front 3, but tend to drop back or inside sometimes to get more involved. You can also get a lot more out of pressuring the opposition players in possession when you lose the ball, rather than just waiting for your defence to win it back. Even if you get in the way of your own players occasionally, you can make things happen if you want.

What I consider an RPG, these days, would. Dialogue choices with consequence; plenty of optional quest lines; character/team builds that play genuinely differently...

That wasn't even hinted at in the demo and didn't seem to be what Bob was suggesting, though. Who knows if the original had any of that.

As an aside, I've just realised that I probably don't consider a lot of recent games that are sold as RPGs (particularly Japanese ones, if imagine) to actually be RPGs. Seems like an overly misused term.

With Bayonetta I really got into the mechanics of it to beat higher difficulty levels, earn platinum rankings and so on. So yeah, it's something I enjoy doing in certain games.

With the Nier demo though I've just played through once and it was the constant shifts in perspective and half-arsed shooting bollocks that made it seem more interesting. The basics are certainly very familiar, but when you quickly switch from 3D to side-on to overhead views, even though you're basically doing the same thing it just changes the way you're doing it and how you prioritise different targets and attacks (which is where the importance of the shooting as a long range tactic comes in, as opposed to being more like a simple combo connector as in Bayo or DMC).

I've probably not explained it well, but I think it added a new dimension (subtly) to this sort of thing and hope it's fully developed in the game.

Postponement of UK trip and PS+ subscription running out at the end of the month means I've decided to get through some of the 'free' games I've collected over the last year.

Starting with Titan Souls and VVVVVV. Both seem quite pleasant so far.

Hmm. I really like the idea of Titan Souls, but it just depends how frustrating it gets in the execution. So far (6 killed) it's been good.

In a bit of a coincidence, I've also tried both those games for the first time over the last few days. Enjoying Al the Vs so far. Struggling with Titan Souls; having not really played games that have end of level bosses for donkeys, I've struggled with these games that are just bosses (like Furi). I've only managed the first boss so far.

I did a little compilation vid of the first 4 bosses. Makes it look easy, but what you don't see of course is the multiple deaths at the hands of each before I worked out what to do.

I really need to grab that again and play it with all the updates, I really want to get to the Darkest Dungeon. Might be one of the best games this year, but I played the earlier version and burnt out on it.

Plague doctor seems essential for corpse clearing from my amateur vantage point.

Bollockoff wrote:

Plague doctor seems essential for corpse clearing from my amateur vantage point.

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Plague doctor is awesome, Slot 3, plague Grenade, Blinding gas, 2 more moves of your choice..

Got darkest dungeon on the vita, any tips?

FH3. Fun and relaxing.

I thought you just said DD tits!

Dark dungeon full of tits. Sounds good.

Dafuq.