Diluted Dante wrote:We did something stupid so we might as well make it as stupid as possible?
It's not clear at all what people voted to leave the EU for, and Norway and Switzerland were frequently touted by Brexiteers as options we could copy. The referendum was simply on whether we are in the EU or not. No one had a plan for how exactly that would happen, and no one voted for the form it would take. No one even voted for why we would be leaving which is why the insane wing of the Tories are free to make up any old shit based on what they want.
As such, it's incumbent on the government to deliver on what the referendum said (leave the EU) in the way that inflicts the minimum damage possible to the country.
Is it Peter Molyneux?dynamiteReady wrote:Also, pop quiz question... Straight out of HIgNfy... To who is this quote attributed?...:}“Time and time again, information is withheld from the public for no good reason other than to spare the blushes of the powerful.”
Diluted Dante wrote:Hunk, that's irrelevant. The question on the ballot was "Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?" The Leave campaign can want anything, I want Kylie Minogue naked and sat on my face, I'm not going to get it.
legaldinho wrote:If you think joining RoI will solve the NI situation, you're deluded. Just swap a majority for a minority innit.
Hodge360 wrote:Surely Scotland on its own wouldn't reach the criteria to join the EU?
The Telegraph understands that the final figure, which is deliberately being left open to interpretation, will be between €45bn and €55bn, depending on how each side calculates the output from an agreed methodology
Liveinadive wrote:If you think people won't vote to make their lives worse you must be deluded.If you think joining RoI will solve the NI situation, you're deluded. Just swap a majority for a minority innit.
It doesn't buy a decent trade deal though. It buys (maybe, depending on NI border) access to start discussing a trade deal. Seeing as we've been hammered in every round of this so far, that's unlikely to start swinging round in the UK's favour either.Liveinadive wrote:That is roughly the figure it has always been really. Somewhere between £40bil and £50bil. They chanced their arm at 20 and Boris tried scare tactics at 100. It sounds a lot of money, it is a lot of money, but if it buys a decent trade deal then it is worth it. The idea the EU has hold us to ransom though is a bit of an exageration, divided between 27 countries (not that it will be dished out as such) it is a drop in the ocean really.
monkey wrote:None for the EU but all new members seem to have to agree to join the Euro and they're way off from meeting the criteria for that. Their deficit is too big. And at that point (having left the UK) would be probably even worse off. Or they'd have to want to join but have their currency managed by England. Which doesn't seem like something the EU would like much.
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