dynamiteReady wrote:Think of it this way, if you want a rational counterpoint. If you want to reduce cybercrime, would you launch an ad campaign on 4Chan, or even Reddit, pleading with people to stop? How much success will you think that will have? And again, it's perpetuating a stereotype and alienating the very people who are trying to help.
dynamiteReady wrote:Because I know I'll be asked for a source.
From the horse's mouth.
GooberTheHat wrote:Please tell me if I'm being a moran here, because it's quite possible I am, but is it really so bad?
If we disregard the actual campaign (I've no idea if that type of messaging will have any effect) but focus on the reasons why they've chosen that particular platform (takeaway chicken boxes) why is it such a bad idea.
I have to make some assumptions here, so that might be my first mistake, but if we assume that:
a) someone involved in the campaign had access to some statistical data and analysed it correctly.
b) that statistical data showed that the demographic factors that indicate that someone is more likely than average to be involved in knife crime, have significant overlap with the demographic factors of customers of fast food chicken restaurants.
If that's the case then isn't it a sensible strategy to target those locations?
hunk wrote:It's something 4/8chan could and would come up with and post on their message boards for lulz.
Moot_Geeza wrote:I don't see the problem if the end game is 'please stop stabbing each other, kids', even if the supposed undertone is 'please stop stabbing each other, black kids'. Teenagers eat a lot of fried chicken and an unfortunate number of teenagers choose to carry knives. Not running a campaign that hopes to save lives just in case it's construed as only trying to save black lives would be a sorry state of affairs, surely? A 15 year old was fatally stabbed in the neck with a machete outside my local chicken shop fairly recently. I'd imagine his parents would give this campaign their blessing.
davyK wrote:Not sure if racism is involved here - I always though the fried chicken and black folk thing was a US cultural thing.
Facewon wrote:Yeah, I'm not sure you got the angle quite right there. It'll be construed as saying that black kids do the knifing, not saving black kids.I don't see the problem if the end game is 'please stop stabbing each other, kids', even if the supposed undertone is 'please stop stabbing each other, black kids'. Teenagers eat a lot of fried chicken and an unfortunate number of teenagers choose to carry knives. Not running a campaign that hopes to save lives just in case it's construed as only trying to save black lives would be a sorry state of affairs, surely? A 15 year old was fatally stabbed in the neck with a machete outside my local chicken shop fairly recently. I'd imagine his parents would give this campaign their blessing.
Paul the sparky wrote:The reports have risen, which is actually a good thing as we're seeing incidents of racism in football acted upon. Contrast that with the 80s and we're heading in the right direction, Shirley?Because I know I'll be asked for a source. From the horse's mouth.
@MootRoujin wrote:Imagine if instead of printing messages begging kids to stop stabbing each other, the government actually bothered to put stone money into making the world these kids live in a lot less desperate and shitty and devoid of opportunities to try and make a better life for themselves? This is as stupid as the radio adverts where Kevin used to be in a gang but then he got a job delivering stuff, or went to college, so pls just go knife free kids and make your life better somehow, even though we took most of your access to things that would improve your lives away over the last 10 years.
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