Still not tempted tbh

I just find they've been progressively worse every year.

So this has now been updated to include the war in the Pacific, USA v Japan. They've dropped a few new maps including the classic Iwo Jima and a new version of Paracel Storm from BF4 cashed Pacific Storm with Wake Island is coming in December.

I've had a go on both maps and they are great, very 1942 - setting the jungle on fire with a flamethrower is quite a sight and Iwo Jima is as fun as ever.

I buried the corspe of BF, it's too painful to go back.

R. I. P

Good man Goobs. Could do with someone who knows how to effectively pepper pot across the map.

I've not been enjoying it really, I've barely dabbled. I got it cheap for the battle royale mode and only played a few rounds of that and MP. Up for giving it a shot though.

It's not perfect but I have great fun with it and I only ever really play with randoms - although unlocking the guns can be a bit of a pain in the arse.

BFV is much better than BF1 (the previous WWI one), much less of the bad nonsense, but still plenty of the enjoyable nonsense. It still has various things about it which are annoying and shit of course, but there is good fun to be had.

If anyone is about on PC I'd be up for a few games btw.

Yeah, there's fun to be had, but the magic isn't really there. The vehicle play hasn't been good since BF4, the physics feel a bit off, the transport vehicles never feel like a good idea after the initial grab for flags, which really limits the larger maps.

The netcode and TTK can combine at times for a brutal TTD, which is the biggest problem imo. So much of the game is map knowledge which is hard to learn when people are scared to move in case they get instakiled.

Destructible environments, with real time Ray traced environments, I'm tingling with excitement.

Imagine crawling in the dark through some trench/sewer/irrigation ditch with a light roof, and a helicopter opens up with its cannon on your position, pumping dozens of 30mm holes all over your cover, with light pouring in casting god rays through the dust and debris!

From the General Games thread:


I can't find the battlefield thread and I doubt anyone is reading it anymore anyway, but development/support of BFV is halting as of June. Apart from gamebreaking bug fixes. 
I'm not surprised, the whole thing has been a shambles really from start to finish, the community has also had the knives out since day one. 
The one thing they praise about the game is the one thing I was briefly happy with when they changed it at Xmas 2018 and that was the gun play. 

At release every gun was a laser beam and the ttk was nearly as fast as COD. Then at Xmas 2018 they changed it, using the excuse that for new players it was friendlier, this caused a massive stink in the community, but I secretly welcomed it. Because No longer where you beamed from across the map by basic SMGs (you can still literally out snipe a sniper with a SMG) and hitting people took a teensy bit more trigger control. Insta deaths weren't eliminated but they were greatly reduced, and when receiving incoming damage you could actually duck behind cover and maybe live to fight on, as it was previously, as soon as you took incoming damage you might as well just let go of the controller because you were almost without fail guaranteed to die. The community hated this and griped until it was changed back. It's very, very brief flirtation with ttk similar BF4, in my opinion, was its heyday and that was only for about 3 weeks in total.

I'm not sad to see it go because I realised a few months back, grinding for chapter unlocks, that I was actually just grinding for chapter unlocks, and the fun just isn't there. I was playing the way the game wanted me to play, not how I wanted to play. Ir was telling me "Hey this is fun" when it should be LETTING me have fun and not telling me I'm having it.  

Over the past couple of months I've seen posts on Reddit and polls asking for the next BF to be Vietnam or cold war and I pray to fucking god it's not. 
2 historical themed titles in a row was a massive mistake in my opinion, and the series needs to get back to the modern day combat that I fell in love with in BF Modern Combat. It also needs gadgets, shit tonnes of gadgets, big open maps and fun, FUN. The ability to be creative with all the stupid tools you've been given, this just doesn't seem to be possible with the limited real world tech of a game set in a historical time period, the rock paper scissors of vehicle combat needs to come back. Basically just reskin BF4 but add all the improvements to soldier movement that came with BFV. 

At this time, yet another scope, gadget and weapon customisation limiting historical themed shooter with fans complaining endlessly that the badge on the GIs uniform is in the wrong place or the Russians shade of brown is slightly too dark would be the finish of the franchise. 

Ditch the transitional animations in and out of vehicles, ditch the specific vehicle entry points, ditch the live service model, ditch the radical soldier customisation that means you don't know what the fuck you are shooting at or what faction it belongs to (over and over again I would be playing this and halfway through a match I would realise I didn't even know what fucking side I was on), ditch the 'realism', fuck making it 'hardcore', add a hardcore mode for those who want it but don't force it down everyone's throat. And more controversially, go back to Premium which at least guaranteed content. 

And finally, much to my surprise a YouTuber has hit the nail on the head and I completely agree with everything in the following video, especially what the next Battlefield game should be. 

There's a massive thread on the subreddit now with everyone bleating about the gunplay being amazing and the changes to a slower TTK killing the game twice. 
No, no, no. 
It was the fast gameplay stopping the game being fun.
It took no skill, no recoil control, no ability whatsoever except who has the better connection and who saw who first, usually by camping. 
Running in the open (unavoidable) meant death, assaulting a flag meant death, PTFO meant death from a rock that was actually a player

The fact that huge amounts of these posters on Reddit are saying 'As soon as they changed the TTK to make it slower I went back to COD'. There's your problem right there. BF1 was extremely popular and pulled a load of COD players in during a bad time for COD, those players continued to get what they wanted at first in BFV and that's extremely fast TTK, with all weapons being hitscan like laser beams. As soon as DICE tried to make things a bit more traditionally BF they all decamp and whinge on Reddit. 
Some are active posters and admit they haven't played the game since Jan 2019. 
DICE don't listen to those players. They are irrelevant, go with your experience. 
I never want to play COD again. I've not played it for more than couple of 'just checking to see if anything else changed', rounds since COD MW. I will never play another COD MP as long as it stays as it is. I've been really enjoying watching YouTubers playing Warzone. It does genuinely look as close to a actual BF game as we've had since BF4, but Jesus Christ watching the gunplay and lack of recoil has left me with absolutely no desire to download and give it a go.... And it's free for god's sake.

To make the games good for me again means BC2 gunplay, or failing that, BF4 gunplay but I'm afraid that means losing the twitch kiddies and sales numbering in the 5mill range and not the 14mill range they want and expect.

It's perverse to think this but it's like DICE need to become a niche Dev again, far less successful but catering to a demographic that's not being catered to by the mainstream.

I deleted BF4 a few weeks ago as it was the same shit servers - 24hrs Lockers - but instead whim I redownloaded it last night. And yes... 24hrs Lockers. But I've just managed to find another server in an actual rotation and God I miss this game. 
More fun in 3 rounds than a year of BFV.

Must have missed you Sparky.

Grind doesn't have vehicles at all. Flanking and back capping is possible, but a good team can stop it happening as well.

There are half tracks and tanks on some of the Squad Conquest maps, but they're a bit of a trap. The tanks aren't great on the flags and you can't afford to have two players off the flag in the mode.

Not exactly hard to guess but it’s looking likely that the next BF is back to modern times. THANK GOD.

pantyfire wrote:

Squad conquest is decent but people drop out and it never seems to fill back up again. It’s always been like this and it’s yet another tick in the wtf box for the game. Grind is basically for those people who loved playing Op Lockers and Metro over and over. It scratches that the enemy are right in front of you, you are almost guaranteed at least one kill itch.

Yeah, played a bit of Squad Conquest last night, guys go and hide in a house for most of a round and then leave just before the end. Even I can't carry that. It's a shame though, the early maps are great and it was a good mode. 

The tiny remaining player base that lapped up no spotting and fast TTK are dreadful at the game.