davyK wrote:

Wifey had a mini breakdown today in the car. The impact of her mother's death in May 2020 hit her - seems to have been triggered by these last few weeks disclosures.

It's probably a safe bet that there will be thousands of others being affected in the same way.

He and his cohorts have to go.

Meanwhile over here the DUP in a pathetic and obvious populist move of proposing getting rid of COVID passports in NI - as if that will smooth things over for the election in May. Fuck them.

Sorry to hear that davy.

I think you are right, this will be opening many old wounds.

poprock wrote:

There’s a huge number of people who thought lockdown was stupid and threw their own parties, enjoyed BBQs with friends, and generally ignored the rules. Those people are going to be fine with Government parties at Number 10. Makes the Tories look ‘relatable’.

Yep. A lot of the toxic masculinity the Tories have used to advantage in recent years won't vanish overnight. Shagger Boris rides again.

Yossarian wrote:

Plus the fact that he’s getting the piss ripped out of him by Ant and Dec and football pundits is evidence of how deeply this story has resonated with the public.

With some people. And ladsladslads with others, taken as approving bants about how anti-estab he is.

He will lose some amount of blue rinse and gammon, but how many of those are likely to vote Dems over Labour? I'd guess well over half. Younger disgruntleds are staring down the barrel of Keith's hoover, trying to make his case he's not too far left for the fleeing right, nor too right for the abandoned left.

Stomper. Stonger. Resect.

I just like Dems because it flows better in writing, but I can use Lib Dems/LDs.

If I were an opposing MP I wouldn't give Johnson too much of a hard time at the minute. I think those who see this as a golden opportunity for digs are very naive, for he's many, many supporters left, to whom his little garden do was in the wrong, sure, but for trying to capitalise on it they'll see these MPs as a massive shower.

Corbyn (apols for the reheat) did best when he talked about Labour's positive ideas, especially at rallies, and lost potential votes when he did his pious bits attacking the Tories and Johnson directly. To beat Johnson you have to outshine him during an election campaign.

Re: our poorest voters that's not easy, but the longer the Tories stay in power the more of us lose wealth, and eventually a leftwing party'll be placed to win a majority. Whether we get one's another thing.

One of the few positives of Brexit was the mass announcement of lower-class dissatisfaction, but alas Labour's now seen as a remainer party under Starmer. We need those people back on side, somehow dodging their bigotry and xenophobia in proposing them a better deal.

A charismatic lefty to lead, but I don't know of any. Corbs was pretty cool for an allotment man. Pidcock's maybe the closest, but she lost her seat and I wouldn't trust her to avoid selling out. Wouldn't stop me voting for her, because her sellout version's probably still a huge improvement.

I wouldn't vote for Moran, but how do the Lib Dems not realise she's their current star?! Full liberal morans. She'd take more votes from Starmer than Davey, and if she routinely showed herself to his left in doing so, I wouldn't mind seeing that. Kennedy II.

Hard to position it as anti-establishment when the establishment is the sole thing keeping him in a job

The BBC and the NHS used to be about the only two substantial British things to be genuinely proud of and grateful for. This government has killed them both. Fuck them forever - on top of brexit, unbelievable levels of generational damage.

Probably a behind the scenes deal with the BBC's rivals, to get him cut some slack. Interesting to see if coverage eases. Probably all part of Operation Big Dog.

I agree. But I don't trust this parcel of cunts to do anything.

sponsors and ads = faceless cunts with money setting the content and agenda.

FUCK. OFF.

RTE in Ireland is funded both by a licence fee and advertising and as far as I know is fine.

My immediate suggestion would be to put a sub on iPlayer and BBC Sounds for people who don't have a standard TV license.
All4 has a £4 per month sub that removes adverts, that would be about the price point I would look at.

It wont solve everything but it would be an immediate revenue driver.

Surely the 'oldies' that we associate with the tories wouldn't want this to happen to BBC? The strictly watchers, radio 2 listeners. Watching Pointless, and Casualty, Michael Portilio pissing about on trains.

MattyJ wrote:

Surely the 'oldies' that we associate with the tories wouldn't want this to happen to BBC? The strictly watchers, radio 2 listeners. Watching Pointless, and Casualty, Michael Portilio pissing about on trains.

Oi!!!!!

Frosty wrote:

RTE in Ireland is funded both by a licence fee and advertising and as far as I know is fine.

I like you Frosty I do but are you comparing the output and archive of the BBC with that of RTE and coming to the conclusion that they are actually comparable

I meant fine as in not editorially bankrupt just because it has advertising which seemed to be the suggestion*. I've only lived here 4 years now but I dunno, they seem comparable to me. Both are publicly funded national broadcasters who fill a similar role in society (as far as I can tell) even if the scale and historical output is different.

*I imagine a lot of people would argue that the BBC does just fine in this regard already though.

You misspelled “right wing”.

But the scale man. The scale! Someone quickly pull us up an infographic of the output of the BBC. Dramas. Soaps. Comedy. Radio for everyone. Podcasts for everything. World service in multiple languages. Local services. Sports. News and current affairs. Arts and culture. Documentaries on everything. Music. Web content. IPlayer.

There are many many things wrong and many many others that could be improved about the BBC. Most of these would be common to any large corp with 22k employees - fiefdoms, different directions, bad projects, wasted money.Large offices in London = too much focus there (although Salford and other regional bases trying to improve that).

But there really is something for everyone on the BBC, still, after all this time and the only way you can achieve content to cover lots and lots and lots of tiny %s of populations is guaranteed income.