The British Politics Thread - The Bear and Badger

poprock

Johnson and the Speaker left in an empty chamber would have been outstanding.

LivDiv

The sack of shit would have seen it as a victory Im sure.

mistercrayon

Diluted Dante wrote:

After Blackford, everyone should have called him a liar and been sent out for the rest of the day.

I like how you can’t say he misled the parliament but it is okay to say he did inadvertently mislead the parliament - surely mislead includes both inadvertent and advertent varieties of misleading.

Rev

I just want someone in the street to punch that smirk off his face, if only just to see his reaction.

LivDiv

mistercrayon wrote:

Diluted Dante wrote:

After Blackford, everyone should have called him a liar and been sent out for the rest of the day.

I like how you can’t say he misled the parliament but it is okay to say he did inadvertently mislead the parliament - surely mislead includes both inadvertent and advertent varieties of misleading.

In this scenario it is ludicrous of course but I guess the standard is there for when a MP acting in good faith receives information that later turns out to be false.

LivDiv

This whole notion that the government can't sort the cost of living crisis or make a stand on Ukraine because the opposition is caught up in partygate is absurd.
What is stopping them outside of the hour or two per week they answer questions in the Commons.

Rev

LivDiv wrote:

mistercrayon wrote:

Diluted Dante wrote:

After Blackford, everyone should have called him a liar and been sent out for the rest of the day.

I like how you can’t say he misled the parliament but it is okay to say he did inadvertently mislead the parliament - surely mislead includes both inadvertent and advertent varieties of misleading.

In this scenario it is ludicrous of course but I guess the standard is there for when a MP acting in good faith receives information that later turns out to be false.

I think the continuing issue with Johnson is his tendency to lie and then not go back afterwards and correct the record with the actual facts.

Diluted Dante

mistercrayon wrote:

Diluted Dante wrote:

After Blackford, everyone should have called him a liar and been sent out for the rest of the day.

I like how you can’t say he misled the parliament but it is okay to say he did inadvertently mislead the parliament - surely mislead includes both inadvertent and advertent varieties of misleading.

You can ask if someone inadvertently misled Parliament - this is effectively giving them a chance to correct the record. You can't call a serial liar out on his obvious falsehoods though because something something archaic conventions.

Funkstain

Here's your problem guys. Met Police commander: "wants" investigation to be fast-tracked (no commitment to fast track), will take "less than a year" (just long enough for this to be history?)

meanwhile you've got your stock answer: wait for report, however stupid you look

after a month or so people will stop asking

acemuzzy

Only sensible answer is 54 fucking letters, so let's pray

LivDiv

I dont see this going away even it takes a year.
People aren't going to forget not being with loved ones as they died or not being at funerals.

And if the questions stop coming then he has to answer what he is going to do about the cost of living crisis, channel crossings, Northern Ireland or whatever else is an issue now or in the future.

The veil has been lifted from the eyes of the public and his bullshit won't wash like it did in 2016 or 2019. The spell is broken.

davyK

The guy is a liar and a cheat and has been exposed as such in a superbly public and global fashion. He's a cunt. A Trump level cunt.

And the world knows he is.

It would be better for all to not get annoyed about it and let nature take its course.

That silence and order that Starmer had speaks volumes. He made Johnson look like a schoolboy.

He's fucked and he knows he is. He is now in the pockets of his own MPs. It's only a matter of time before he is out. It won't be quick enough for us but it will happen.

Things are not going to get any better for him. There will be more to come.

The Afghan pet thing needs to be properly leveraged for starters.

LivDiv

Oh god I didnt think this could get any worse but now there are reports the party in the No.10 flat was an ABBA party.

Thats the real crime here people.

acemuzzy

Mama mia!

Diluted Dante

Here we go again.

poprock

Oh no.

Unlikely

Scaramouche, Scaramouche, will you do the Fandango?

Wait, shit.

poprock

As in tune with the times as a Tory Cabinet.

regmcfly

It's a rich man's world.

Wookienopants

Oh don't go ruining Abba for me!!

afgavinstan

I don't want to hear anyone here ever feel like they're an impostor in their career when this jumped up wine maw is an elected official

https://twitter.com/JibbaJabb/status/1488230206879973386?t=uT2CEp6e98CnF-wasQ02FQ&s=19

Fucking fuck me, etc.

LivDiv

Shows how far the talent in the Tory party has fallen when she seems to be the go to for interviews right now.

Utter shit for brains.

b0r1s

In a room full of brain dead twats she really does stand out as the worst.

acemuzzy

That's not even the worse interview she gave today

I guess I'd have needed the Dutch courage route too though tbh

Wookienopants

Jesus fucking christ. What a tool

[Deleted User]

LivDiv wrote:

Shows how far the talent in the Tory party has fallen when she seems to be the go to for interviews right now. Utter shit for brains.

I've not clicked the link, but it's Dorries, isn't it?

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acemuzzy

This was the other one I saw earlier...

https://twitter.com/tezilyas/status/1488211380507455490?t=R0QmaFqIy9c_AAfdK3olKg&s=19

LivDiv

MyNamesKrisG wrote:

LivDiv wrote:

Shows how far the talent in the Tory party has fallen when she seems to be the go to for interviews right now. Utter shit for brains.

I've not clicked the link, but it's Dorries, isn't it?

x

We have a bingo

davyK

There will be a reckoning for all this. All this stuff is saved for posterity and will haunt them to their graves.

Escape

Gav's fuckingfuckme.gif

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/jan/30/wes-streeting-labour-mp-interview-christianity-cancer

What, I wonder, do they make of this neat, energetic man in a crisp shirt and shiny shoes?

Somehow, he makes it all sound so exciting: the leaflets, the surgeries, even his long commute to the Palace of Westminster. “Sometimes I drive and sometimes I get the tube,” he tells them, as if this was the most thrilling journey in all the world.

From a tiny chair at the side of the hall, I carefully consider Streeting, a man who at moments might belong to another age entirely. It’s not only that his crab apple cheeks and short back and sides give him the look of a kindly wartime grocer, the sort who might slip you a bag of illicit sugar.

of his education, he explains: “I went to Cambridge, which is one of our best universities.” (What? Doesn’t the Labour party frown on such elitism?)

Some on the left are appalled by the welcome Wakeford has received from Keir Starmer. But Streeting couldn’t care less. “I’m not at all put out by the things he [Wakeford] has said in the past. His defection tells us that the Conservative party has changed for the worse, and the Labour party has changed for the better, and I hope this will bring people who voted Conservative to look again at the party under Keir.

To the purists, I say: get with the programme. We’re winning the argument.” By his telling, the left is firmly in the descendent now: “There are a bunch of people who were relatively recent joiners to the Labour party who didn’t understand its history or traditions or how you win elections.

A lot of people have left who were never really committed to it and frankly, a lot them were barnacles on the boat.

In bold, that'll be those of us who recently joined for, uh, socialism, rather than their well-known history and traditions of... keelhauling proles?

“Labour party has changed for the better” an admission (in his context) they've slotted into the rightwing ground the Tories ceded under Johnson.

Worktools Keith and Reeves the big dogs now. Fellow socialist-hater Phillips must be looming somewhere.

2015 Reeves wrote:

We are not the party of people on benefits. We don’t want to be seen, and we’re not, the party to represent those who are out of work.

Labour are a party of working people, formed for and by working people.

2013 Reeves wrote:

If you can work you should be working, and under our compulsory jobs guarantee if you refuse that job you forgo your benefits, and that is really important.

Into the bin with the lot of 'em.

These people don't value how revolutionary some of Labour's policies were at the time, happy to status quo them (at best) a lifetime later as if workplaces haven't changed.

They know that modern technology can meet our social and mental needs so much better, but don't believe in representing positive change, as so many of their old MPs did.

Howdy, Stranger!

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