NieR Automata - New game from PlatinumGames - The Bear and Badger

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ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

Finished my second playthrough and so I guess this is happening now huh. Shiiiiiiiit.

Yup!

Was waiting for that.

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Also...you're gonna come to one of the only parts of the game I didn't like. But once it's over, it's over.

Tempy

I played the demo - it seems good!

But Warhammer just announced new Dwarves so no NieR for me!

monkey

I had another hour or two on this and I'm getting more into it now. I found how to get to the next marker instantly this time so we'll file my previous problems under 'player stupidity'.

It's wrong to say I'm in two minds about it, it is a good game. But going in I thought I'd probably end up just wishing it was a pure platinum action game without the RPG bits. I'm still not completely convinced but its early days. I'm enjoying the pure unadulterated batshitedness of the whole thing, specifically

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Combat is nice and satisfying, the robots give good explosive feedback when you smack 'em up good. The camera is a bit of an issue sometimes. It's not that easy to see what's around me so I don't go into crowds of enemies too hard because you easily get jumped from your blindspots. It's not perfect when it does it's switching game modes things either, as you can end up in a right state when it puts you back in more traditional 3D combat mode.

Anyway, it's good and, when it works well, it works really really well.

monkey

What's going on with the dead body looting? These are other players that have died? I've just been looting their stuff but it occurred to me they might be coming back to their bodies to get it. I'm not up with these souls-type mechanics.

ShabbyMcCrabby

Yeah it's like souls ish. Not sure if it has greater implications as yet though...
I haven't died much so haven't had others pick me up yet. Probably should be playing on hard but I'm enjoying seeing the story through atm

ShabbyMcCrabby

OMG now

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ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

OMG now

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I'm playing as A2 and the combat seems to have gotten deeper and the enemies repertoire has expanded too. Why you do this to me Nier!!!!
I need to go the bed!!

Haha, glad you're liking it!

ShabbyMcCrabby

Was the bad bit

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ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

Was the bad bit

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when you're infected and have to walk to the mall and you get attacked and can't defend yourself or jump and it's slow and then you fall down to where the aliens were and have to wait to be able to climb the ladder and then wait at the top to be able to jump up a ledge and then keep on stumbling? Wasn't so bad but could have been easier with a simpler route.

Yup.

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Now that this is out on PC, the RPS review is up.
Their verdict? Recommend, they loved it. Recommended.

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Having unlocked just a few of the endings (some are more like chapter breaks than endings, many are punchlines or small oddities), I feel like I’ve feasted on a ten-course meal. Some of the food turned to ashes in my mouth, but only when that was by design. From its always-magnificent but alternately triumphant and mournful score to its massive intricate bosses and moments of bleak horror, Automata is a superbly controlled game. It gives you freedom to explore, to collect, to fight and to much about, but it always has one hand on the tiller and the other on that camera, directing the action and observing your every move.

It’s rare to see such ambitious storytelling and open world roleplaying tied to such a stylish combat system, not to mention the (optional) Souls-like multiplayer elements, shooter tangents, mini-games that punctuate rather than interrupting, and that big ol’ world to explore. You don’t need to have played any of Yoko Taro’s previous games to appreciate Automata, even though it has links to both Drakengard and (of course) the original Nier, but it’ll probably make you keen to seek them out. Me? I’m hoping Platinum get a chance to work with these worlds and words again. A thousand ideas, delivered in rapid succession, backed by action that is the thread that stitches everything together rather than an interruption between one story beat and the next.

Smang

i'm not really feeling the open worldliness of this game. You can go anywhere, but some areas are flooded with bad guys much higher levels than you are to provide some sort of arbitrary 'door', which basically means doing a 180 and backtracking.

It's mostly my fault as i'm getting distracted but it is a bit annoying, i'd much rather they actually cordon off areas until you get to the appropriate story missions.

ShabbyMcCrabby

Isn't that most open world rpg type games though?

I think I'm nearing the end. Maybe. Who knows with this game.

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Smang wrote:

i'm not really feeling the open worldliness of this game. You can go anywhere, but some areas are flooded with bad guys much higher levels than you are to provide some sort of arbitrary 'door', which basically means doing a 180 and backtracking.

It's mostly my fault as i'm getting distracted but it is a bit annoying, i'd much rather they actually cordon off areas until you get to the appropriate story missions.

Hmmm, that's a weird one - I can't remember something like that happening... can you give me an example of a particular place where you encountered that? I'm not doubting you, I'm just wondering if I forgot or not.

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ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

Isn't that most open world rpg type games though?

I think I'm nearing the end. Maybe. Who knows with this game.

Still enjoying it?

ShabbyMcCrabby

Oh yeah definitely. It's still very good.

I like how

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And I found a few places like smang. Mostly way off the beaten path and down an elevator or something.
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Smang

Childintime wrote:

Smang wrote:

i'm not really feeling the open worldliness of this game. You can go anywhere, but some areas are flooded with bad guys much higher levels than you are to provide some sort of arbitrary 'door', which basically means doing a 180 and backtracking. It's mostly my fault as i'm getting distracted but it is a bit annoying, i'd much rather they actually cordon off areas until you get to the appropriate story missions.

Hmmm, that's a weird one - I can't remember something like that happening... can you give me an example of a particular place where you encountered that? I'm not doubting you, I'm just wondering if I forgot or not.

i'm not entirely sure tbh, but there was one section that was either a crater or a cave. long spiralling route down to the bottom but it was filled with level 40 dudes and suicide bombers when i was around lv15. one other time i recall taking a lift deep down somewhere.

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Yeah, regarding what smang said - that was my initial thought. But I didn't see those guys as anything other than...

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They're usually not indicative of the rest of the enemies in an area. Hence why I asked, maybe there were places where the general level of enemies was too high to be tackled by the player.

I actually did the place you mentioned, Shabby, at quite a low level. Took ages, but really drove home how good the combat system is - if your reflexes are good enough, enemy level means nowt.

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Smang wrote:

Childintime wrote:

Smang wrote:

i'm not really feeling the open worldliness of this game. You can go anywhere, but some areas are flooded with bad guys much higher levels than you are to provide some sort of arbitrary 'door', which basically means doing a 180 and backtracking. It's mostly my fault as i'm getting distracted but it is a bit annoying, i'd much rather they actually cordon off areas until you get to the appropriate story missions.

Hmmm, that's a weird one - I can't remember something like that happening... can you give me an example of a particular place where you encountered that? I'm not doubting you, I'm just wondering if I forgot or not.

i'm not entirely sure tbh, but there was one section that was either a crater or a cave. long spiralling route down to the bottom but it was filled with level 40 dudes and suicide bombers when i was around lv15. one other time i recall taking a lift deep down somewhere.

Ah, cool - I know what you mean. Those areas are pretty much optional challenges, if I'm thinking about the right places.

ShabbyMcCrabby

Yeah I did too Cinty. Took a while but I got there

Smang

Childintime wrote:

Ah, cool - I know what you mean. Those areas are pretty much optional challenges, if I'm thinking about the right places.

hmm, maybe ill have another go once i level up a bit. there were a few others as well that have subsequently shown to be 'doors' once i got to the relevant story mission.

you're right about them being beatable, at higher levels the enemies don't seem to behave differently other than taking next to no damage and one hit killing me. just cba with a war of attrition, especially as a fuckup means i lose all my chips...

Silke

First playthrough completed. Second begun. It's all love. Well, except that my PS4 Pro sounds like damn jet engine when fighting hordes of enemies but other than that, it's such a beautifully realised experience.

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Silke wrote:

First playthrough completed. Second begun. It's all love. Well, except that my PS4 Pro sounds like damn jet engine when fighting hordes of enemies but other than that, it's such a beautifully realised experience.

So happy you're enjoying it - it's the old Nier fans that deserved a great sequel and I know you had your worries. Also happy to see this game is doing so well.

I've completed my 2nd A route just now. Had a small break but back in it. Amazing game.

ShabbyMcCrabby

So just finished this.

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Have you found many more endings? Is there different ones for finishing on hard do you know? I guess I could Google.

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ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

So just finished this.

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well A B C D E and G. Is your fave ending the one where you shoot the credits Cinty? That was pretty great, especially with the messages at the end. I couldn't sacrifice myself though.... Not my precious save data!!!!

Have you found many more endings? Is there different ones for finishing on hard do you know? I guess I could Google.

I had several other endings, but you got all the biggies.

As for that ending...

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And there are no other endings or achievements for hard plays.

ShabbyMcCrabby

Did you get an achievement for it?

TheDJR

Can this go very cheap soon please

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ShabbyMcCrabby wrote:

Did you get an achievement for it?

I don't think so.

hylian_elf

I played some yesterday. First area. Music so nice. City ruins look cool. Artistically great, if not technically great graphics.

Can tell the story is gonna be deep. I think.

ShabbyMcCrabby

Yay elf. It really is great.

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