You probably want to go digging in the dark web.

It's not easy to come by, unless you go to hi-tech parties. Most people who make it do so only in very small batches, for themselves or to share with close friends. However, the extraction itself isn't hard. there are a few steps involved, and you need a good amount of freezer space plus a small investment in beakers, goggles etc. everything you need can be bought on Ebay, legally, and there are loads of different recipes online too with easy to follow steps. .

All the people I know who do their own extractions say that organising it is harder than actually doing it. Def wouldn't be suitable if you have kids in the house as the best extractions involve lye. There are all-natural extraction techniques out there, but you're just left with dmt acetate at the end, which is definitely smokeable but i) it's gloopy and sticky like syrup, and therefore only suitable for changa, and ii) the high level of impurities bring an especially pronounced body load and disorientation. This stuff is dark brown, and the trips definitely feel dirtier.

DrewMerson wrote:

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I read your response, its still on my phone! I totally get where you are coming from. I think where we mostly differ is just in how much room for maneuver we give these cases before we arrive at the same conclusions. I do keep the door slightly ajar when it comes to this stuff. For me, there is a hope still! Its more fun that way. Id disagree though about dismissing every case Ive seen. There have been some that genuinely have a few interesting aspects to them.


Has something happened regarding the lab origin - Corona virus theory? 
I was listening to Joe Grifter Rogan and he had 2 political commentators on that thought it likely and he played a clip of Jon Stewart on a talk show basically saying the same thing.
 Is it being taken seriously now?

@noxy I meant to say, Im quite taken aback by your stories. I had expected an answer something along the lines of "oh you see some shimmering colours maybe and feel woozy or floaty". Its wild to think one could take some DMT or whatever and genuinely see things so out there.

Just saying, that the lab theory was poohpoohed for so long just wondering had something changed for it now to be actually taken seriously. Cant imagine China will want to play ball in any capacity.

Kow wrote:

How much does it typically cost? I'm intrigued by it but I think my current situation would make it more or less impossible to try.

Depends what tek you go for and which bits of equipment you already own. I never made it myself, but i think about 100 for everything need to get a gram or so. This is also the sort of price you'd expect to pay if you are fortunate enough to find someone who actually wants to sell it. The only really unusual thing you need is the mimosa root bark, and if that's all that is missing, i dunno, maybe just 30?   

Yields are quite low, unless you go for one of the more advanced/thorough recipes. But a gram, if smoked efficiently, should give you up to 20 breakthrough doses. So basically a lifetime's worth for most people.

Don't forget you also need a caravan, a pair of white Y fronts, a space in the New Mexico desert and a desire to be the One Who Knocks.

superflyninja wrote:

DrewMerson wrote:

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I read your response, its still on my phone! I totally get where you are coming from. I think where we mostly differ is just in how much room for maneuver we give these cases before we arrive at the same conclusions. I do keep the door slightly ajar when it comes to this stuff. For me, there is a hope still! Its more fun that way. Id disagree though about dismissing every case Ive seen. There have been some that genuinely have a few interesting aspects to them.


Has something happened regarding the lab origin - Corona virus theory? 
I was listening to Joe Grifter Rogan and he had 2 political commentators on that thought it likely and he played a clip of Jon Stewart on a talk show basically saying the same thing.
 Is it being taken seriously now?

@noxy I meant to say, Im quite taken aback by your stories. I had expected an answer something along the lines of "oh you see some shimmering colours maybe and feel woozy or floaty". Its wild to think one could take some DMT or whatever and genuinely see things so out there.

You should watch louder with Crowder.

Kow wrote:

I meant how much just to buy a gram (or much less ideally) of it really. There's absolutely no way I'm making the stuff.

Yep me too. Anyone fancy selling a gram for twice the going rate

Would like hard grot. Some guns. Some dmt. Pay for it all by crypto.

Not gonna lie.

It's the underside of the web but anyone can access via Tor, which works by (I think) relaying your connection through many other nodes, thus making you untraceable to most people. You basically just download Tor, run it, and you're in.

The dark web sounds pretty shit to be honest.

If im going to do dmt id rather get it from a somewhat known source

And how did you get the drugs? Delivery?

superflyninja wrote:

And how did you get the drugs? Delivery?

Yeah, royal mail first class, airtight, double bagged and sealed. Arrives in a day or so. Is quite amazing really, just plops through your front door. You can pick the type, strength etc. I wish they'd just legalise marijuana ffs.

equinox_code wrote:

Never used it myself, but I hear dark web quality is generally very high. 

The guy I get my shrooms from- in person- is quite a big seller there, and everything I have ever had from him has been in a different league to what I had before. But he's also a mycologist by trade, so I guess you'd expect him to really know what he's doing.

Yeah that's it, you aren't meeting some bloke in his car or whatever and taking what he has to give you, it's customer reviewed, write ups and ratings from customers, and you can pick your type/strain. It's in the seller's interest to be accurate and fair otherwise they get shit reviews and bad ratings.