Tempy wrote:

i'm real

Just Tempy from the block

Manly hugs, ok.

Going back to slightly earlier, in a surprising turn of events, Japan hearts Xbox One

http://www.develop-online.net/news/44527/Silicon-Studio-Xbox-One-more-friendly-to-Japanese-devs

http://kotaku.com/yakuza-series-developer-offers-his-opinion-on-the-new-c-513069245

So, new forum poll? For me the PS4 is still more attractive.

I was thinking of making some sort of differences/pros-cons list but this seems to have most of it covered.

    The Xbox One releases sometime in November for $499, while the PS4 will cost $399 and will be out sometime later this year.

    The Xbox One requires a Kinect. The PS4 Eye is sold separately, which is partially why the PS4 is priced lower than the Xbox One.

    The Xbox One has a "one-time system set-up," but after that, no internet connection is required. The PS4 does not require you to have an internet connection to start playing your games, although we don't know if it will have a day one update—or if it will also require a "one-time system set-up."

    Indie support on the PS4 seems much stronger than on the Xbox One...but the Xbox One has Minecraft.

    The PS4's controller has a touchpad, unlike the Xbox One's. The Xbox One has rumbling triggers, though.

    The Xbox One has a new, expanded achievements system. We don't know anything about the trophy system on the PS4.

    Both consoles support second screens. Xbox One utilizes "SmartGlass", which takes advantage of various phones and tablets. Sony's second-screen support also involves the PlayStation Vita, which you can use for PS4 remote play.

    The Xbox One has a strong focus on other media, like television—it's aiming to be your go-to device in the living room. To that end, it has a fancy "snap-mode," which allows the system to multitask. Sony discussed television a bit at E3, but the system seems to primarily focus on games.

    You have the option to download a game's multiplayer or single player first on the PS4, in case you'd like to jump straight into a specific portion of the game.

    Neither system is backwards compatible, although Sony announced a plan to support PS3 backwards-compatibility through Gaikai, a streaming service, sometime in 2014.

    Xbox One exclusives include Dead Rising 3, Ryse: Son of Rome, Quantum Break, Killer Instinct, and Sunset Overdrive. PS4 exclusives include inFamous: Second Son, Knack, The Order: 1886, Killzone: Shadow Fall.

    I'm just gonna add to that list the PS4's standby feature, which is just like what the PSP/Vita/DS can do.

    I think it's also worth mentioning XB1's lack of Bluetooth, and no included headset.


Apologies on the formatting, I couldn't quite fix it.

Ha yes sorry, it would probably be better to wait a bit. It's easy to forget that the launch is still some months away.

Do one at the start of each month.  It would be quite interesting to see how things change over time.

The Bean does not negotiate with gamers, unless it's WoW and we're talking raid loot.

Not sure which way you mean that?

beano wrote:

The Bean does not negotiate with gamers, unless it's WoW and we're talking raid loot.

No need. Raid looting has changed, especially for LFR. It's now impossible for people to ninja loot on bosses.

Yeah we should all know it's been re-designed by now.  Until you hold it you don't know what it's like.

The arguments will be unbearable though.

Gonzo wrote:

Sony first party support trounces microsoft's.

Meh. It's never blown me away. There are very few PlayStation games I've been jealous of over the past gen.

The indie stuff is much more of a consideration.

Spoken like a true lawyer.

Honestly, the difficulty of finding work in the uk at the moment has me thinking that I might head to Saudi for a few months to teach English just to get some money behind me. If I do, I'm buying both. And maybe even a Wii U just because I'd be loaded.

I do need a new laptop, and those retina MacBook Pros look damn tasty.