Top 1% of American pilots, which doesn't necessarily mean much btw. Also, I did 20 years as a pilot technically so he can fuck off.bad_hair_day wrote:Fravor joined the military at 17. Had a career spanning 24 years, 18 of which was as a Navy pilot. Trained at Miramar where only the top 1% of pilots are excepted.
Minkymu wrote:Thats a bit different to a vague comment made by a jet fighter pilot who says he has seen lots of odd things moving around in the sky whilst using night vision. Presumably whilst at a decent height and travelling at a fair crack? Im interested in what he means by that. Above him in the upper atmosphere??
GurtTractor wrote:It's possible in some cases that a UAP could actually be some kind of covert flying craft, but is moving in fairly mundane ways that we might expect from current or cutting-edge tech, but appears to be moving in extreme ways to the observer, due to parallax effect etc. So slightly super advanced flight tech could be mistaken for the hyper advanced stuff this way, and that is more likely than stuff just being straight up future tech.
Brooks wrote:I just want to say that I lol'd at this casual shadethrowing and it made my afternoon.Elmlea wrote:The US aircrew training system is one of the weakest in the 4th/5th generation world and doesn't produce very good pilots or instructors. The guy quoted as an F/A-18 instructor pilot with 2000+ hours isn't remotely impressive
LivDiv wrote:Shoulda TikToked it.
bad_hair_day wrote:Fighter pilots don’t ever come across as humble so I’d ignore the air of authority on subjects. Even met a solicitor?
Aliens.Elmlea wrote:GurtTractor wrote:It's possible in some cases that a UAP could actually be some kind of covert flying craft, but is moving in fairly mundane ways that we might expect from current or cutting-edge tech, but appears to be moving in extreme ways to the observer, due to parallax effect etc. So slightly super advanced flight tech could be mistaken for the hyper advanced stuff this way, and that is more likely than stuff just being straight up future tech.
That's probably right. The first time I saw a proper super-secret aircraft, I was queued up to take off from the same runway it was landing on. We sat in silence for a while after being told to hold, and then realised there was something on approach that either wasn't transmitting or was on a different frequency. This weird little triangle thing landed and taxied off, straight into a hangar that closed behind it, then we were cleared to line up. It was definitely extremely secret, didn't appear on any of the sortie lists, no-one acknowledged it, and someone pointed a gun at me when I went to visit the hangar and see what it was later.
Wookienopants wrote:Way I look at it is there's only two options. Either there are no other life forms out there and we are totally alone OR there are life forms out there and chances are they are more advanced than us. I find the first one terrifying as if that's true then we are all there is. Once we've run out of resources on our planet and we cause our own extinction then that's it. Life ends.
Wookienopants wrote:There's also no reason it shouldn't be.There's no reason this should be true.chances are they are more advanced than us.
Yossarian wrote:To be fair, after almost twenty years here, many of us have real life connections with each other. I’ve been out drinking with Dino as many, if not more times, than I have with Elm (although Elm stays out later), and I’d buy you a drink tomorrow if you were so inclined. The fact that we’ve met in real life had nothing to do with Elm’s analysis.
Kow wrote:Fermi Paradox?
Elmlea wrote:Yossarian wrote:To be fair, after almost twenty years here, many of us have real life connections with each other. I’ve been out drinking with Dino as many, if not more times, than I have with Elm (although Elm stays out later), and I’d buy you a drink tomorrow if you were so inclined. The fact that we’ve met in real life had nothing to do with Elm’s analysis.
Hurrah, I look forward to the next time!
bad_hair_day wrote:Dehto says the range is wrong because it’s not laser locked (can happen with a ‘non cooperative’ target) or it would have HSAA graphic overlaid on the object with heading, speed, altitude and aspect. He’s also stating no way the FLIR camera can have the sea in focus (enough to make out a normal wave size) and have focus on an object at 13,000ft (2.5 miles) Therefore Dehto thinks it’s much closer to the water, approx 1000 ft high and moving at 560mph, and demonstrates this with a 3d model and witchcraft.
Elmlea wrote:That's probably right. The first time I saw a proper super-secret aircraft …
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