RedDave2 wrote:Apparently Ukraine is quite vast and hard to navigate so even without western backing it wouldn't be as straight forward as some think.
Escape wrote:The Western kids are in the playground shouting FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT, a crowd's gathered, and now Putin feels he has to flex to save face. Maybe push a geek down the grass bank. Germany the sensible library girl trying to stop it.
equinox_code wrote:I'd be curious to know how the Russian media are covering this
equinox_code wrote:I'd be curious to know how the Russian media are covering this
dynamiteReady wrote:Also turns out that the dude Belarus lifted off that RyanAir flight, was actually well connected to Ukraine's best organized defence force. Nazi's apparently, but supposed well supplied. I would only guess at who was supplying this facist army, intent on defending Ukraine from another Russian invasion...
Funkstain wrote:hot sauce pleaseAlso turns out that the dude Belarus lifted off that RyanAir flight, was actually well connected to Ukraine's best organized defence force. Nazi's apparently, but supposed well supplied. I would only guess at who was supplying this facist army, intent on defending Ukraine from another Russian invasion...
While the exact nature of his involvement with Azov is difficult to know, Belarusian state media have seized upon it in an attempt to portray Mr Protasevich as an extremist.
dynamiteReady wrote:equinox_code wrote:I'd be curious to know how the Russian media are covering this
Probably as the big brother supporting a beleaguered ally.
GooberTheHat wrote:Russia consider Ukraine to be part of Russia. They don't think of Ukraine as an ally, they think of it as lost territory.dynamiteReady wrote:Probably as the big brother supporting a beleaguered ally.equinox_code wrote:I'd be curious to know how the Russian media are covering this
dynamiteReady wrote:Funkstain wrote:hot sauce pleaseAlso turns out that the dude Belarus lifted off that RyanAir flight, was actually well connected to Ukraine's best organized defence force. Nazi's apparently, but supposed well supplied. I would only guess at who was supplying this facist army, intent on defending Ukraine from another Russian invasion...While the exact nature of his involvement with Azov is difficult to know, Belarusian state media have seized upon it in an attempt to portray Mr Protasevich as an extremist.
From - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57229635
But if you follow the keywords around, there's a lot of murky water around his role and access.
Like I'd mentioned earlier, things took a crazy turn after he was arrested illegally in Belarus. Sanctions against Belarus for this, in hindsight, looks like the came with a huge risk. That leads me to think he was more important than the Western media suggests.
At any rate, Azoz, until now at least, was the seen as key deterrent to a full invasion before.
But I'm only drawing this from recent interest. There's going to be much more history out there on Azoz, and what they did in the first war.
dynamiteReady wrote:GooberTheHat wrote:Russia consider Ukraine to be part of Russia. They don't think of Ukraine as an ally, they think of it as lost territory.dynamiteReady wrote:Probably as the big brother supporting a beleaguered ally.equinox_code wrote:I'd be curious to know how the Russian media are covering this
No, no... I mean in defence of Belarus.
GooberTheHat wrote:Any info he had is well out of date now. I'm not sure I understand what critical role he would have played, or how his information he may have had may be pivotal?
Funkstain wrote:Bullshit NATO, US and others are hardly innocent protectors of freedom of course, but to say that this has somehow been forced upon Putin for understandable political reasons
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