superflyninja wrote:mannaboy wrote:So SNW. How in fuck was this written by the same people? This felt more like Trek than any of the new stuff. It wasn't perfect but it was so far beyond Discovery and Picard. Realistically I think it may be a downward slide from here like Picard S2 but there is plenty of scope for optimism.
Cap'n Pike's charisma is carrying a lot at the moment too.
I did have a quibble....Spoiler:Spoiler:
handsofblue wrote:Doctor is intriguing. Didn't catch his name, but I'm sure I will.
superflyninja wrote:Well well well. Episode 2 of Strange New Worlds was a banger. It was like a proper Trek episode. I'm impressed.
I agree with all of this. It made me especially sad because it highlighted what missed opportunities Picard and Discovery were.handsofblue wrote:Best modern Trek. Hands down. Let's cut the series short before there's a chance to screw it up. The tone is nice and consistent, layered story lines that thematically relate to other plots and characters. The conversations are believable and very well performed. None of that rapid fire SCIENCEFUCKYEAH planning in Discovery. You get Pike getting opinions from his senior crew and then putting it into a plan. You see reasoning and motivation that speak to the characters and how their backgrounds and personality affect their contributions. With Discovery, the crew are so shallow that I have very little to go on. They're reduced to characteristics (particularly shit cos that means I have the gay ones, the NB one, the trans one, the Asian one and Jesus Burnham). Picard relies too much on what came before and then shat all over it. Oh, FANTASTIC shots of space shootout in the last ep. No reliance on shake and blur to transmit pressure, clear and well directed shots. Good ep, solid 7.5/10, very much liking the crew, story, episodic but still with overarching themes. Roll on ep3.Well well well. Episode 2 of Strange New Worlds was a banger. It was like a proper Trek episode. I'm impressed.
In the grand scheme of things it was such a minor wrinkle it was barely worth mentioning.handsofblue wrote:The best thing about Picard is watching RLM afterwards. Watching as soon as I get home.Spoiler:
It is truly an incredible achievement. Part of me wonders if it was a "The Producers" scenario behind the scenes.monkey wrote:That’s Picard finished. The second half of that was so painful. It stopped being hilarious bad and became boring bad. But it was so, so bad. You could take any 5 minute segment and spend an hour breaking down why it was so terrible. Things that should matter don’t. People know things they couldn’t possibly or don’t realise things they should. Or don’t care about things that are terrible. Like at one point they lose their only way home and no one gives a fuck. It’s not even mentioned. None of them even remark on it. Despite them spending the past four or five episodes going to special lengths to protect it. Agh. I can’t get into it. It’s endless, bottomless stupidity. Every scene. It might be the stupidest thing I’ve ever watched.
lol fuck me, there's an idea. No offence to the actor that plays Raffi of course, but is there anyone out there that actually likes Raffi? Car crash of a character with zero redeeming features.monkey wrote:I think you’re onto something there. One of the producers was talking about doing a Seven and Raffi spin-off show.
Really? I've not watched any s4 yet. The ending of s3b0r1s wrote:Episode 1 of Discovery Season 4 seems almost Shakespearean compared to the shite that was Picard. It makes sense so far, and not a single Burnham tear.
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