monkey wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/27/world-close-to-irreversible-climate-breakdown-warn-major-studies
It's hopeless. We've fucked it. Out of time now.
b0r1s wrote:Yeah but experts know nothing. Let’s get someone in from a think tank for balance.
poprock wrote:The UN says it’s game over. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/oct/27/climate-crisis-un-pathway-1-5-c
monkey wrote:I think as soon as you get the first extreme event in mainland US or Europe then you’ll get the political movement necessary.
poprock wrote:To bring a little more optimism to the table, I’ve spoken to people over the last month or so who genuinely believe they can save the world. At least in terms of energy transition and reversing global warming. Heads of research schools at some of the big universities, and so on.
So … there’s hope still. But in the form of ‘new science can yet save us!’ Which might be a bit premature when it hasn’t actually been done yet.
Yossarian wrote:monkey wrote:I think as soon as you get the first extreme event in mainland US or Europe then you’ll get the political movement necessary.
Not exactly sure what would count as the first extreme event in Europe or the US. We’ve had a rise in all kinds of extreme events in both places, some of which have been pretty unprecedented (London was on fire over the summer and not because of a bakery this time), none of those appear to have prompted any real urgency to fix things.
monkey wrote:Yossarian wrote:monkey wrote:I think as soon as you get the first extreme event in mainland US or Europe then you’ll get the political movement necessary.
Not exactly sure what would count as the first extreme event in Europe or the US. We’ve had a rise in all kinds of extreme events in both places, some of which have been pretty unprecedented (London was on fire over the summer and not because of a bakery this time), none of those appear to have prompted any real urgency to fix things.
A natural disaster that can be hand-waved away by Fox News. “We’ve always had heat waves.”
monkey wrote:undeniably caused from the climate breaking down.
acemuzzy wrote:I think people will handwave whatever it is
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