Film/Video Discussion Thread - The Bear and Badger

bad_hair_day

Empire readers and critics vote Fury Road best film in the last 20 years.

Never doubted it lads.

Full list...

'100 Greatest Movies of the Century'

Mad Max: Fury Road
The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring
The Dark Knight
Inception
Moonlight
The Social Network
Avengers: Infinity War
Get Out
Pan's Labyrinth
Lost in Translation
There Will Be Blood
No Country for Old Men
Whiplash
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Spirited Away
Spider-man: Into the Spider-verse
Mulholland Drive
Inside Out
The Wolf of Wall Street
Interstellar
Children of Men
Gladiator
City of God
La La Land
Call Me by Your Name
Memento
Kill Bill Volume 1
The Irishman
Boyhood
God's Own Country
Amelie
Avengers Assemble
Wonder Woman
Zodiac
Arrival
Ady Bir
Donnie Darko
The Grand Budapest Hotel
Joker
Up
Avengers: Endgame
Casino Royale
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the King
Roma
Blade Runner 2049
Inside Llewyn Davis
Scott Pilgrim Vs the World
Star Wars: The Force Awakens
In Bruges
The Hunt for the Wilderpeople
Paddington 2
Inglourious Basterds
The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers
Brokeback Mountain
Captain America: The Winter Soldier
Before Sunset
Drive
Wall-e
Django Unchained
Carol
Shaun of the Dead
Sideways
Under the Skin
Almost Famous
Toy Story 3
The Prestige
Hot Fuzz
Apocalypto
The Royal Tenenbaums
Avatar
The Raid
Birdman
Once upon a Time in Hollywood
Oldboy
Training Day
Logan
Dunkirk
Michael Clayton
Little Miss Sunshine
Before Midnight
District 9
Skyfall
Frances Ha
Coco
The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford
Iron Man
Bridesmaids
Sweeney Todd
Her
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
In the Mood for Love
Baby Driver
Phantom Thread
Batman Begins
A Prophet
Guardians of the Galaxy
Ex Machina
Captain America: Civil War
Let the Right One In
Dead Man's Shoes

Edit: Posted later in the thread but works here I think. A fine video essay on why Fury Road is not just a great action movie.

'It's the Wizard of Oz for Adults in the 21st Century'

b0r1s

Mugs

Moot_Geeza

Okay then I'll pick my five from that lot.

No Country for Old Men
Assassination of Jesse James
Zodiac
In Bruges
Apocalypto

Manchester by the Sea and Memories of Murder better than anything on the list though.

bad_hair_day

Chopping it to five would be hard work.

Cos

I can't even comprehend the bullshittery involved to say that film is the best of the last 20 years. Unbelievable.

bad_hair_day

Get your list out Coz.

b0r1s

There’s a load of amazing films in there and to break out stuff like LoTR is nonsense. This list is pureLy about timeliness and self reinforcing ideals of “great” films. No way is Get Out better than Training Day for example. It’s all about recent memory and discussion on forums. Nothing to do with how good the films are.

Cos

Aye, should do rather than just rage

Give me a few.

Diluted Dante

Nonsense list.

Its obviously Titan AE.

b0r1s

I still stand by the fact that people are enamoured by Mad Max because of how it’s made rather than it being a good film. Average acting (Theron excepted) and a plot that is less than paper thin. Oh but the cars were really trashed like the old days. None of this CGI nonsense. Must be a great film. Bollocks.

b0r1s

Diluted Dante wrote:

Nonsense list. Its obviously Titan AE.

Dante knows. Is it less than 20 years old?

Diluted Dante

I had to check, June 2000.

LivDiv

I like Fury Road because I enjoyed it.

It's not the best film of the past 20 years but it's a good movie.
I suspect an aspect of its popularity is its simplicity in a time when movies can often be overly complex, have political messages shoe horned in or are part of a 56 movie interwoven saga.

It looked good and the cars went smashy smash, that's what people wanted and that is what they got.

b0r1s

See I get that. Simple honest answer. But the acclaim that followed was because of the craft etc. It was a diversion from an ok action film. Look I enjoy John Wick, but no way am I going to put it on a pedestal beyond what it is. That isn’t what happened with Fury Road, I think even with some people on here.

b0r1s

Diluted Dante wrote:

I had to check, June 2000.

Phew

bad_hair_day

b0r1s wrote:

I still stand by the fact that people are enamoured by Mad Max because of how it’s made rather than it being a good film. Average acting (Theron excepted) and a plot that is less than paper thin. Oh but the cars were really trashed like the old days. None of this CGI nonsense. Must be a great film. Bollocks.

Went to see it on a whim, expected to see another exhumed franchise that should've stayed dead.
Soon as the credits rolled I knew that was cinema greatness and deserved every plaudit since.

hylian_elf

My picks from that list:

Pan’s Labyrinth
Lost in Translation
Spirited Away
City of God
Memento
Donnie Darko
Up
Birdman
Before Sunset and Before Midnight
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon
IN THE MOOD FOR LOVE, BEST MOVIE OF DECADE

b0r1s

Mostly good picks

hylian_elf

People may pick on the Before movies. I have a soft spot for them.

bad_hair_day

Boris, it was mostly CGI mate, well most shots were element heavy.

b0r1s

If I had to pick...

The Lord of the Rings: The Trilogy
The Dark Knight
Inception
Avengers: Infinity War
Pan's Labyrinth
Lost in Translation
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Spirited Away
City of God
Amelie
Avatar
Arrival
Donnie Darko
Blade Runner 2049
Sideways
Hot Fuzz
Training Day
Iron Man

Not in that order.

b0r1s

bad_hair_day wrote:

Boris, it was mostly CGI mate, well most shots were element heavy.

But everyone was raving about the physical effects at the time.

I watched some making of stuff to show a lot of post processing, mainly in the environments and sets etc. Anyway I guess I’m on my own here. It just left me numb and underwhelmed. I’d rather watch Thunderdome again.

hylian_elf

Ah yes Blade Runner 2049 too

hylian_elf

Ones I need to see:

Moonlight
Arrival
Roma
Phantom Thread

b0r1s

I really like Moonlight, but quite a simple film. Culturally significant though.

Arrival I really enjoyed. Best not to go in knowing anything.

bad_hair_day

Least we can agree on some things (:

Mad Max: Fury Road
The Prestige
Children of Men
Arrival
Avatar

The Road (not on the list WTF?)

b0r1s

Damn did I cut Avatar? Meant to leave that in.

Edit - and we agree on the Quest ;-)

Wookienopants

My picks from that list:

Avengers Infinity War
Pan's Labyrinth
The Dark Knight
Spider Man : Into The Spider-Verse
La La Land
Arrival
The Grand Budapest Hotel
Inside Out
Avengers Endgame
Casino Royale
Captain America : The Winter Soldier
Toy Story 3
Hot Fuzz
The Raid
Batman Begins

regmcfly

The Social Network
Memories of Murder
Oldboy
Drive
There Will Be Blood

bad_hair_day

Haven't seen three of those Reg, need to catch up this year.

b0r1s wrote:

Edit - and we agree on the Quest

Brothers in VRms.

If you've a spare 45 minutes, this guy breaks down why Fury Road works.

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