Metal Gear Solid 5: The Phantom Pain - The Bear and Badger

Aaroncupboard

So the benefits of the wife and child being ill is a good amount of time to play this. Completed Mission 2, 3 and a few side ops. I can see how repetition could begin to emerge but I am really enjoying it right now. Really enjoying it.

mistercrayon

Tempy wrote:

You don't have to repeat anything to finish it

WRONG

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retroking1981

mistercrayon wrote:

Tempy wrote:

You don't have to repeat anything to finish it

WRONG

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tutorial mission repeat can KISS MY ASS

Lol, being told how to crouch after playing the game for 70hrs is odd to say the least.

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Verecocha

retroking1981 wrote:

mistercrayon wrote:

Tempy wrote:

You don't have to repeat anything to finish it

WRONG

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tutorial mission repeat can KISS MY ASS

Lol, being told how to crouch after playing the game for 70hrs is odd to say the least.

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Also, resucing Code Talker again even though he's safe and sound on mother base is dumb. Capturing Quiet again... The repeat missions are a joke.

Tell me you're joking about those two repeat missions. If not, there really is no defending this game.

I'll play a little bit more tomorrow. So stupid how they've taken such a good number of gameplay systems and put them in the wrong game.

retroking1981

Unfortunately not mate.

cindemon

On reflection, I enjoyed Ground Zeros more than Phantom Pain. The ending of PP, whilst is conveniently tidy, it can do one.

Worse MGS for this fan, most polished & slick by far, but finishes 6th in the old MGS table.

retroking1981

I'd agree with that.

MoesTavern

Verecocha wrote:

retroking1981 wrote:

mistercrayon wrote:

Tempy wrote:

You don't have to repeat anything to finish it

WRONG

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tutorial mission repeat can KISS MY ASS

Lol, being told how to crouch after playing the game for 70hrs is odd to say the least.

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Also, resucing Code Talker again even though he's safe and sound on mother base is dumb. Capturing Quiet again... The repeat missions are a joke.

Tell me you're joking about those two repeat missions. If not, there really is no defending this game. I'll play a little bit more tomorrow. So stupid how they've taken such a good number of gameplay systems and put them in the wrong game.

The only mission you 'have' to play again is the tutorial, as it's important for the story conclusion.

cindemon

I should of said 7th.

Such a huge fan me....

@Rets I had spoiled part of the ending myself prior to finshing it on a mad hunt for info regarding...(@anyone please dont peak if you are yet to fin)

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Throw in the lack of cutscenes & the fact most have to be triggered/hunted for. Repetition of missions(& approach to said missions, tho that one I will take for being a lazy bastard ref my arsenal, to much freedom can be a bad thing sometimes tho) lack of crazy boss fights & the shit spoilered above, & it sits where it sits in my MGS league. Also no feckin Hayter.

Still, that said, tidy ending, just not what I was hoping for tbh. Driving around Africa in my jeep, D-Dog in the passenger seat whilst listening to Hamburger tapes was about as close as it got to the old feels of prev games.

Bollockoff

You either hate Koj for needing so much time and money or Konami for abandoning the project in the final hour.

retroking1981

No Hayter is criminal.

Although

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I'm currently going through 3 again to unlock MG and MG2. Looking forward to those and

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cindemon

retroking1981 wrote:

No Hayter is criminal. Although

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I guess if your not big boss it kinda makes sense. I heard the Japanese version is voiced by the same guy that done the others, so there's no consistency it that regard.
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Would agree & would make sense...

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..yet its overpaid gravel voice on the riding into the sunset scene.

retroking1981

Bollockoff wrote:

You either hate Koj for needing so much time and money or Konami for abandoning the project in the final hour.

I think I'd have to put it on Kojima.

Konami are a business and this game was spiralling out of control.

I honestly think if Kojima was given complete freedom this game would probably still not be out. It might have even been released in two parts.

Would it have been a better game for it? Almost certainly, but Konami had to make a decision and from a business point of view it was probably the right one.

I'll be interested to see how Kojimas next game fairs.

cindemon

retroking1981 wrote:

[/spoiler] I'm currently going through 3 again to unlock MG and MG2. Looking forward to those and

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killing this fake Big Boss.

Stick one on him from me, cheers.

retroking1981

@cindemon I wonder how much he was paid. Hayter must be somewhat upset/disappointed at his exclusion.

edit: will do mate

cindemon

No idea ref costs. If mem serves me correct Hayter did have a litle rant/meltdown about it early doors. Wasnt Koj's decision all about motion cap aswell as voice? Again, mem is hazy.

digi

It was about the motion capture, obviously only one actor needed for that.

Hayter were upset as he felt he is snake/boss.
(wich he is)

Yongyea interview with hayter and hayter and wuinton flyn is excellent.

Vela

MGS 3 Subsistence is still the best of the series.

Vela

Right. That's chapter one finished. This is where it gets interesting right?

BTW, talk about an amazing battle with zero build up or tension.

Vela

Only 67 more side ops to go!

JonB

First time I was climbing up a watchtower just as an enemy's climbing down today:

Also trying to take outposts by knocking out guards as many different ways as possible. Got up to 7 so far.

IanHamlett

I did that to some cunt once and he landed on my dog. Both KO.

JonB

Today's clip. Standard long-range knocking soldiers out (pretty shit shooting TBH), but the end result was pleasing:

Also, new toy of the day - hand of jehuty. I can see that getting used quite a bit.

Paul the sparky

That would never have happened if you could hit a cow's arse with a banjo.

JonB

It's true.

JonB

42 missions done on this now, and god knows how many side ops. I could quite happily whip through the rest of it at this point, although there's still so much to unlock. Mostly it comes down to finding (and improvising) new ways to do the same things again, which makes it a little too grindy, but still fun:

Paul the sparky

Wow, Quiet is really fucking irritating.

Tempy

You tune it out when playing really.

JonB

At least she's got some clothes on now. Although there was a certain cutscene today involving her splashing about in the rain. Just glad my wife didn't walk into the room while that was on.

Tempy

I imagine you made sure to google the parameters for that occurring in an incognito window too.

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