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Yeah that's what everyone said about the 360Yossarian wrote:It's worth mentioning that the Bone has been running games in a virtual machine from day one. It was built with future back compatibility in mind.
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monkey wrote:
Also, they make a fuckton of money and generate a lot of visibility by having a new console out. If you slip into the realms of annual or biannual spec bumps, it's harder to grab people's attention, expand your customer base and all the rest.acemuzzy wrote:I think the main reason they'll be a Playstation 5 is marketing - where do you turn after Pro, Super Pro? Uber Pro Pro?
Possibly. But isn't it those killer exclusive games that actually expand the customer base. I would have thought it would be very attractive to the platform holders to do away with gens that enable their customers to make a clean break and jump ship to a rival platform.
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Yeah maybe. Just can't see how it will work when they want to do a big hyped up launch for their new model if all the games are playable on the model already out. It takes away from their must-have, latest and greatest sheen.
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It's a tricky one. Maybe tie each launch in with the launch of one or two exclusives that really show off the upgrades strengths.Get schwifty.
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Raiziel wrote:It's a tricky one. Maybe tie each launch in with the launch of one or two exclusives that really show off the upgrades strengths.
Apart from Nintendo, when was the last time a launch title really showed off a system?"I spent years thinking Yorke was legit Downs-ish disabled and could only achieve lucidity through song" - Mr B -
Well if it's an upgrade then aren't the devs already familiar with the architecture? So a Naughty Dog could probably come up with something suitably dazzling, no?Get schwifty.
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cockbeard wrote:Raiziel wrote:It's a tricky one. Maybe tie each launch in with the launch of one or two exclusives that really show off the upgrades strengths.
Apart from Nintendo, when was the last time a launch title really showed off a system?
Halo has been the only other impressive launch title ever imo, maybe Ridge Racer on PSone.
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Project Gotham Racing 3 knocked my socks off on 360's launch.Get schwifty.
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retroking1981 wrote:Halo has been the only other impressive launch title ever imo, maybe Ridge Racer on PSone.
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Diluted Dante wrote:retroking1981 wrote:Halo has been the only other impressive launch title ever imo, maybe Ridge Racer on PSone.
Maybe Ridge Racer???
One track. Was an amazing demo.
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Also compare RR to GT only a couple of years later
That's what I mean, whereas ninty seem to have fantastic first party games that are rarely bettered"I spent years thinking Yorke was legit Downs-ish disabled and could only achieve lucidity through song" - Mr B -
Just to catch up on a couple of points here:
As far as PS5 goes, I think Sony will be quite happy to keep releasing updates as long as they remain profitable. It'll all come down to sales figures. Still, the earliest I'd expect to see a brand new generation is 2020, Microsoft will have plenty of time to flog Scorpios.
As far as Gazelle's suggestion that no new gen means no new innovations, the fact is that all of the innovations since the Wiimote fad have fallen flat on their faces. We've seen the trackpad you mentioned, SixAxis, Kinect, the Wii U gamepad, PlayStation Eye, PlayStation Move, none of them have made much of a dent whether they were released as part of an innovative new console or as add-ons to an existing device. If there really is a decent innovation in consoles, then I sure it will take off, but innovation for innovation's sake has been failing as a strategy for years now. I'm not sure that a lack of new consoles is going to stop innovation, the fact that nobody has come up with a decent new idea in a decade is the issue here. -
Yossarian wrote:Just to catch up on a couple of points here: As far as PS5 goes, I think Sony will be quite happy to keep releasing updates as long as they remain profitable. It'll all come down to sales figures. Still, the earliest I'd expect to see a brand new generation is 2020, Microsoft will have plenty of time to flog Scorpios. As far as Gazelle's suggestion that no new gen means no new innovations, the fact is that all of the innovations since the Wiimote fad have fallen flat on their faces. We've seen the trackpad you mentioned, SixAxis, Kinect, the Wii U gamepad, PlayStation Eye, PlayStation Move, none of them have made much of a dent whether they were released as part of an innovative new console or as add-ons to an existing device. If there really is a decent innovation in consoles, then I sure it will take off, but innovation for innovation's sake has been failing as a strategy for years now. I'm not sure that a lack of new consoles is going to stop innovation, the fact that nobody has come up with a decent new idea in a decade is the issue here.
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Kinect was a bag of shite and anyone who thought otherwise was a moran.
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Good voice recognition for searching the store, useful for yelps of 'xbox record dat!' and in stuff like Forza Horizon to get to the nearest race/garage or what have you, so it was handy in my gaff.
But they've since fucked the store stuff completely, all of it must have been possible using the headset mic, and none of it ever worked if you were a ginger skirt wearing haggis muncher, so I can see where you're coming from. -
I am a ginger skirt wearing haggis muncher and I can confirm kinect still is a piece of garbage that can't recognise accents.
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I've literally no clue how my accent doesn't make it explode.
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Paul the sparky wrote:I've literally no clue how my accent doesn't make it explode.
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You need to be more Southern.
"Oi, Cortana yoo slag, put on 4od yoo muggy cunt" -
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Steam: Ruffnekk
Windows Live: mr of unlocking
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Very swish! Throw a trillion pound PC at it and it does look juicy indeed.
I've given up on the 60fps dream with my creaking old i5, 970. It seems to be ok running most of the Ultra settings at 30 though so it looks fine and dandy on the 1080 monitor.
The Xbox one on the big telly and with the full surround is also lovely.
Oi tink they allll have luvverly bottoms Ted.GT: isanbard PSN: DAQster DS-FC: 0361-6861-4525 AC: Bumdirt -
I have a steamlink but it'd need to get into the steam library wouldn't it?
It's a UWP program so doesn't play ball without some faffing and I can't get that to work on my setup either. (It may be because I've installed it on a different drive to the system drive as the Rift installs tend to eat all the SSD)
Doesn't Steamlink require the steam overlay to run and that doesn't play nice at all with UWP at the minute does it?
Can steamlink just throw anything that's on the PC over? UWP games have pretty hefty security stuff. They create a new exe each time you run them as I understand it amongst other security gubbins?
I think they are saying they will make it all integrate 'in the future..' at some undefined point..GT: isanbard PSN: DAQster DS-FC: 0361-6861-4525 AC: Bumdirt -
I'm not sure about the ins and outs precisely as I am yet to buy one but I imagine you can it to fuck. Not sure. I have seen people run their desktops through it, but I know it's fiddly. Reddit probably knows.
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I has a steamlink, it's steam eco only
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Pretty sure you can get around it by running Notepad as a Steam application and using that to enter command line prompts
Edit: I mean theoretically you can link almost anything to be opened through Steam, even pirated games.
Just watched a video where a guy runs zSnes through Steamlink. So you don't even need your Japanese Super Famicom
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