Ditto to Yoss and Haak. I would like one evening where we blast through in one go, I’m very much ok with reading guides in advance if it means we can beat this damn thing

There’ll be a few of us who have done it a few times so should be easy.

Verecocha wrote:

There’ll be a few of us who have done it a few times so should be easy.

I still need to prestige it.

I haven't even done the OG Raid even once.

Unforgiveable.

Leviathan hasn't changed in PL. The subsequent Raid Lairs have. We could just start with Leviathan and see how it goes. Like I said and like some of you remember (Dogs, Baths) it's not so much about your PL as it is blind luck

Olimite wrote:

I haven't even done the OG Raid even once.

Unforgiveable.

Only got so far with 5, unfortunately. Would love to do the full thing

MattyJ wrote:

Olimite wrote:

I haven't even done the OG Raid even once.

Unforgiveable.

Only got so far with 5, unfortunately. Would love to do the full thing

We miss you and your crew dude.

Olimite wrote:

I haven't even done the OG Raid even once. Unforgiveable.

I never got to Raid level! Will fire up game at some point and see where I’m at. Addicted to God of War at the mo though.

Anyone on PS4 want to play Warmind with me tomorrow day? Want at least a partner, preferably also someone who hasn't played it yet.

Items can now be deleted directly from the postmaster!?

That's automatically top tier Destiny dlc right there.

Found what I think is a BEAST of a new Legendary Pulse.

Agrona PR4.

Dragonfly (elemental explosion) and steady like a laser! Pairing it with the new and improved Crimson and doing fairly well in the Crucible. 

I don't know if it's the changes or just the long break, but it feels great playing Destiny again.

The campaign for the DLC has some truly awful storytelling in it. Feels like whole cut-scenes and missions are missing, lore is just randomly chucked aside, there is no weight to the actions or implications of what happens... just disappointing and in line with the rest of D2's storytelling tbh. I know D1 had issues with keeping things outside the game, but the structure of the campaign, strikes, raid and then DLC building on things in the vanilla was way better in D1 than D2.

Yeah I agree Matty, in hindsight the campaign is rather flippant. Just seems like Bungie are unable to catch themselves up at this point are on a permanent backfoot on all fronts. 

Funny thing there, I had a huge post typed out about my thoughts on the expansion until I realised I've said it all before. Not only had I said it I've been there and experienced it so with that I've pretty much decided Destiny isn't for me in it's current state. It's just not engaging enough for me, especially having experienced some games recently with real depth.

Bungie have perhaps started out on the more engaging path with the ground work they've set recently but until September we won't know how it's all going to play out. A full year after the games launch. I will be back in September to check it out and I really do think it will be last chance saloon come that date. For me, and a lot of other players looking for more depth.

Some of the things I need to see in September to bring me back and engage me in Destiny 2 in the same manner as Destiny did:

- Armour with impactful perks and stats with choices to make on how they affect gameplay.
- Armour sets with full set bonuses giving players a reason to chase sets apart from visuals.
- Weapons with random rolls (this is an absolute necessity at this stage to make day to day logging in more incentivised. 
- Weapons with more perks and progression (bring back weapon leveling - give us something to work towards daily)

I know those aren't to everyone's taste but for me to become invested in Destiny again this is what I need to see. However, I'm starting to feel now that the bed has been made and we will likely have to wait for Destiny 3 until the biggest problem for Destiny can be solved within it's design and progression philosophy.

Having said all that I did enjoy returning and I will log in to do stuff with clan mates if it's going on, but the desire to re-engage with Destiny as a hobby game quickly vanished last night as old realisations came rushing back. A sad state but not totally unexpected given the feedback from the Destiny Summit last month.

After all, everyone in attendance did say this was going to be just more of the same with the real changes coming in September. Guess I'll have to wait until then

Hope you are all enjoying the expansion none the less.

I read a post on reddit which sums things up better than me but to paraphrase:

In D1, the campaign had a satisfying end that was then expanded upon in the raid and DLC. For example, with Crota you're told as you go along you stop him coming through and wreaking havoc again. This is a Hive god who laid waste to 1000s of guardians (IIRC). However, in the raid you can actually fight him and it is a real challenge to do so. The Vault of Glass is an extension of what is covered as part of the end of the D1 campaign, you stop the Vex but haven't killed a big bad because that clearly needs more than one little guardian.

In D2, the campaign finishes with you just shooting the boss a bunch/using a super... and that's it. The raid has nothing to do with it and barely introduces a new boss except through an adventure mission which you could miss. It isn't as satisfying, you're being told that this enemy is the most dangerous we have faced yet but doesn't need more than one guardian popping them a few times.

I won't go into the Warmind campaign because spoilers, but it is a bit ridiculous and there is a real disconnect between the words being spoken and then the actions taken.

DOUBLE POST BOO YA