I'm in your boat but I can just see them speeding out this movie to get the cash monies. I'm done with superheroes. I have a lot of love for Supes - remember the death of superman series vividly from when I was 8 and still have a lot of those issues, so I'll give it a shot. But I dont know what needs to be done now.
It maybe needs a rest for 10 years.

Of course that will never happen.

I'd bet on them being a permanent fixture for about 10-15 years, at least. They seem to be studio bread and butter for money now. I am one of those people who like Superman instead of just dismissing him as 'lol op what can stop him lol' and I've chatted to Bugul at length about it. Superman allows you to do the truly fantastical, sling villains at him like the Doomsday, Braniac or the Tyrant Sun, but those characters often exploit scales and concepts the average cinema goer would probably call naff, so they never translate those into film and instead just stick with Luthor and never really capitalise on his genius. I've no faith in Snyder, but I really want Man of Steel to be the Superman film I've been waiting for.

Jimmy The Lips wrote:

Yar, but they already said they won't give all characters there own film, they don't want to follow the marvel route, they want things to be grittier.

I didn't know that, makes sense then.

Half in the Bag is superz.

Thats what I like about it. 2 genuine opinions. Worth infinitely more than any Empire review.

lolz, yes. I guess I meant as far as visual reviews go these people are the dogs willies.

Kow wrote:

So, have to say, massively disappointed by this. But I'm not sure why as it seems to hit all the right notes. It seemed baggy and pointless in places. I was initially thrown by Bane's voice but it grew on me despite my thinking of the Knights who say Ni! every time he opened his mouth. Might have been just a bit too bombastic compared to The Dark Knight.

This.

I came out the cinema pretty disappointed tbh, think I went into the cinema expecting greatness but it was all way over hyped for me. The relentless soundtrack was fucking ridiculous at times, and despite adjusting to Banes voice I often struggled to hear others, often being drowned out by the music. The action sequences were a bit meh compared with Dark Knight, still my favourite.

Bruce had been missing for about 5 months though so that was about right. I don't see any debate about him being alive either. He was clearly there. Very poor 'open to interpretation' if that's what it's meant to be.

Idiots

No doubt in my mind either that it was real although how Nolan set it up does indeed open it up to suggestion. We first see Alfred's dream/hope that when on Holiday he'll see Wayne on another table. And at the end of the film, we see the exact same location and shot. All that Nolan is saying is that Alfred's wish came true although it could (wrongly) be perceived as Alfred still dreaming/wishing.

OMG. Nolan has us debating the end! He's a GENIUS!

three1ne wrote:

No doubt in my mind either that it was real although how Nolan set it up does indeed open it up to suggestion. We first see Alfred's dream/hope that when on Holiday he'll see Wayne on another table. And at the end of the film, we see the exact same location and shot. All that Nolan is saying is that Alfred's wish came true although it could (wrongly) be perceived as Alfred still dreaming/wishing.

I don't buy this because of how film works. You don't show superfluous stuff. Nor do you cram in last minute exposition if you're building to a 'debateable' ending. As Reg as said, if he is just dreaming it, why not cut when Caine smiles? He shows you Wayne and Selina because they are there. If he ever comes out and says otherwise then he needs to go fuck himself because he pisses on all sorts of logic to make a dumb point.

It sound like i'm ragging on Three1ne, but I'm not. I just think Nolan could have opened it up 'better' and all the people who think he's dead are just jacking themselves off a wee bit.

DC wouldn't allow it. Part of me thinks Nolan did want to do it, and the suits snubbed him.

Maybe the WHOLE THING is in Alfred's head.

Bruce never comes back after he runs away in Begins. Alfred dreams the whole thing. The final film ends with Alfred sat in a chair, old and decrepit. Rachael tells him it's time for him to go to bed and not a single muscle on his face flinches. The shadow of a bat is cast over the wall as it flys past one of the huge arched windows in Wayne manor, and his eyes tear up.

Cue huge horns and