Let's make a gaming PC
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Oh, yeah so the RX 5700 and 5700XT are the only two that you should be looking at in terms of AMD GPUs. Both really solid, I think the 5700XT gets up to around 2070 levels of performance, with the 2070 Super having just a bit more oomph. You get RTX stuff with Nvidia but the implementation is still a bit thin on the ground. AMD doesn't have anything that challenges Nvidia's high end just yet, so 2070 Super and up its all Nvidia.
If your budget can stretch to it and you want to have a minimum faff high end 4K experience for a good few years then you are best off with a 2070 Super, 2080 / Super, or I guess the 2080 Ti but that's probably overkill and poor value. -
Right, so that's the bit that's breaking me. I was about to post this build, but that relies on a 5700XT. The 2080 might be my luxury shit then.
Here's the build anyway.
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PROCESSOR: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X CPU, 6 Cores, 3.6 - 4.25GHz
Power Supply: Fractal Design 80 PLUS 600W PSU
GRAPHICS CARD: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB Graphics Card
CASE: Fractal Design Focus G Case with Window - Black
MOTHERBOARD: Asus PRIME B450M-A Motherboard
COOLER: AMD Wraith Spire Stock CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste: Prolimatech PK-3 Nano Particle Thermal Paste
Memory: 32GB DDR4 3000MHz Memory (2 x 16GB Sticks)
Case Cooling: Corsair ML120 Magnetic Levitation Fan - Twin Pack (Replaces 2 existing case fans)
M.2 PCIe SSD: 500GB WD Black SN750 M.2 PCIe Solid State Drive
Solid State Drives: Not selected
Hard Drives: Seagate 1TB BarraCuda 7200RPM Hard Disk, Seagate 2TB BarraCuda 7200RPM Hard Disk
Optical Drive: Not selected
Sound Card: Onboard High Definition Audio
VR Headsets: Not selected
Case Lighting: Not selected
PSU Silencing: AFG-PSU Anti-vibration Power Supply Gasket
Networking Upgrades: Not selected
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Anti Virus Software: Not selected
Office Software: Not selected
Other Software: Not selected
Enhanced Internal Packaging: Not selected
Monitors: Not selected
Dead Pixel Checking Service: Not selected
Keyboard & Mouse: Logitech MK270 Cordless Keyboard and Mouse
Gaming Mice: Not selected
Gaming Keyboards: Not selected
Gaming Surfaces: Not selected
Monitor Cables: Not selected
Power Cables: Chillblast Power Cable
Speakers: Not selected
Headsets: Not selected
Game Controller: Not selected
USB Storage Devices: Chillblast 16GB USB Flash Drive
Printers: Not selected
Surge Protection: Not selected
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The XT seems to be knocking on the door of the 2070 so maybe that's where I go.
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Actually I remember why I didn't recommend an AMD GPU to you before, it's because Chillblast doesn't list what specific model they use, and it looks like they will probably just use the reference cooler, which for AMD's cards are especially shit and loud and it will annoy you. So just go for a 2060, 2070, 2080, or the super variants of those Nvidia GPUs. If they listed the AMD cards as having a nice aftermarket cooler such as the Sapphire models then I could recommend them, but the safe bet for Chillblast is to go for Nvidia.
In that list of yours the 32GB of RAM, thermal paste, extra case fans, PSU anti vibration gasket, mouse and keyboard, and USB flash drive are a waste of money.
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If you need to save monies then drop the GPU to a 2060/Super, or drop the hard drive and reuse what you have. You only need 16GB of RAM.
The 3600 CPU is like £25 more than the 2600X and is worth it. The Corsair RM650x power supply is much better and quieter than the Fractal one. -
So I want the 32gb ram because my current one has it and I turn it on and then it's there.
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Back to the board I go. If I can get it to around £30-40 a month I'll be happy.
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regmcfly wrote:So I want the 32gb ram because my current one has it and I turn it on and then it's there.
Ok but if your usage is just gaming then the extra 16Gb will do absolutely nothing for you, and is a waste of money that you could put towards the GPU.
Apart from that if you need a cheaper system then you can opt for a cheaper case like the Fractal Focus G, a smaller capacity SSD, a lower end graphics card (2060 minimum rec probably). I wouldn't recommend trying to skimp any more than that. -
I wouldnt go lower than a 500gb SSD.
I have 256gb and it is a bit of a pain really and games are only getting bigger.
I would drop down to 16gb of ram for sure. You will likely find your current rig is bottle necking elsewhere and 32gb is overkill.
I have 32gb in mine but that is because of work and I have only ever hit capacity on that by doing something moronic. Or After Effects ram previews which if left will naturally hit capacity.
You will get more bang for your buck off the GPU imo.
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It's also very easy to add more ram later if you decide you need more in a few years.
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Definitely. I could do with more than 16GB RAM but that's only because I like to do 3D and rendering stuff. For gaming and general use it would make no difference.
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Just to be clear though if he goes for 16gb he does want it dual channel as I read that some games suffer with just having a single dimm slot loaded? Have you noticed this? -
I have 32 purely for future proofing as 4k blends 3 hits nearly 16gig usage -
I did 32 as my laptop came with a 16gb single stock of ram and I read that it was a bit of pain to upgrade the ram on it. So paid up front for the 32.
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LivDiv wrote:Did you go for 2x 16gb sticks DS?
4 x 8 as I already had 2 x 8. Its 2666mhz so could upgrade but its minuscule different really. -
Yeah, makes sense if you have sticks already, otherwise twin is king.
Gonna be a costly upgrade next time but you will be sorted for a while. -
Tbf with the gpu and processor I have should be set for a long while. It pisses 1440p at like 100-150fps for fun.
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Juat got used to 4k now so am a scrub boy lol
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The big thing with ram is catching bitmap for textures really but there are some excellent procedural techniques coming through which should limit that to an extent.
Giant bitmaps are a brute force solution really. -
Right. I think I'm there. Going for the 32gb ram, going for the high end 5700.
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£40 a month, can do it.
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Gonna wait till 1st so debit comes out at the start of each month.
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I'm about to buy now validate me
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Here we go
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It's bought.
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Thank you to all, especially gurt , on what to buy.
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Here's what I went for. Stuck with keyboard and mouse as I need new ones.
Build a Full Size (ATX) AMD Ryzen PC
SKU ATXRYZENCUSTOMISER
PROCESSOR: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X CPU, 6 Cores, 3.6 - 4.25GHz
Power Supply: Fractal Design 80 PLUS 600W PSU
GRAPHICS CARD: AMD Radeon RX 5700 XT 8GB Graphics Card
CASE: Fractal Design Focus G Case with Window - Black
MOTHERBOARD: Gigabyte X470 Aorus Ultra Gaming Motherboard
COOLER: AMD Wraith Spire Stock CPU Cooler
Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Paste
Memory: 32GB DDR4 3000MHz Memory (2 x 16GB Sticks)
Case Cooling: Corsair ML120 Magnetic Levitation Fan - Twin Pack (Replaces 2 existing case fans)
M.2 PCIe SSD: 500GB WD Black SN750 M.2 PCIe Solid State Drive
Solid State Drives: Not selected
Hard Drives: Seagate 1TB BarraCuda 7200RPM Hard Disk, Seagate 2TB BarraCuda 7200RPM Hard Disk
Optical Drive: Not selected
Sound Card: Onboard High Definition Audio
VR Headsets: Not selected
Case Lighting: Not selected
PSU Silencing: Not selected
Networking Upgrades: Not selected
Operating System: Windows 10 Home 64-bit
Anti Virus Software: Not selected
Office Software: Not selected
Other Software: Not selected
Enhanced Internal Packaging: Not selected
Monitors: Not selected
Dead Pixel Checking Service: Not selected
Keyboard & Mouse: Logitech MK270 Cordless Keyboard and Mouse
Gaming Mice: Not selected
Gaming Keyboards: Not selected
Gaming Surfaces: Not selected
Monitor Cables: Not selected
Power Cables: Chillblast Power Cable
Speakers: Not selected
Headsets: Not selected
Game Controller: Not selected
USB Storage Devices: Not selected
Printers: Not selected
Surge Protection: Not selected
Webcams: Not selected
Accessories: Not selected
Cable Management: Standard Chillblast Cable Management
Speed Up Build Time: Estimated 7 - 10 Working Day Build Service
Warranty: 5 Year Warranty, 2 Years Collect and Return UK only* -
Should be 1440p future proof mate, some 4k if you knock settings down a little
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