I can’t think of a single reason why redoing stage 1 would be a good idea.

We've just seen Johnny and Jim and Tom, We like Johnny and Tom. Let's put them through to the 2nd round of interviews. Wait, who's this guy Scott? He was here months ago? I barely remember him. That Tom though, he's a good fella.

Part of me thinks it's pointless, but i also see the argument g's just made. It's a different guy, interviewing me for what's technically a different job, so i may as well do it. There's only 2 other people going for it, so hopefully they're shite. Or at least, more shite than me.

Good luck HawBaw!

poprock wrote:

I figure I’m keeping my integrity by telling it like it is.

So, weirdly, i am really shit at career stuff. I tend to be the dork who gets the work done. More recently I've had my head out of my arse and decided I cared more about how things are done, mainly because things have been done very badly of late. I have worried about things and mentioned them that turned out in the end to be things it was right to be worried about. So when my boss moved, and he urged me to apply, I did. I did it on the basis that no one else internal is applying (it's that bad) and someone at least someob internal should apply, in case external applicants are dunces. Turned out lots of external people applied, so I was not hopeful. Also, I wasn't a shoe in because I've been a bit of a cunt to the top top boss, who is an utter dickflap.

Anyway, today I was offered the job, after someone law turned it down. I was told that I would get an extra 5% since it is a promotion, and that is that. It is a lot more work and a lot more responsibility am I wrong to think, no way, I should ask for more? I've not really had a bump in pay since I started, ten years ago. I'm thinking of asking for 10%.

I am mainly reasoning that, if they are asking me, they really can't be thinking much of the next candidate on the list. I have them over a barrel. Next, if they turn around and say no, I can always cave. Finally, I'm not that desperate for this job. It's a big job. My team is a cluaterfuck.

On the other hand, just moving up a grade /title might be enough in terms of career. Help, o career guru badgers, you who aren't afraid to ask for more. What should zonzo do?

My industry is the civil service, and it is seriously fucked up. People who know people and are "operators" do great, somehow get great wage progression. For most people, progression is slow af or nonexistent, but the trade off used to be job security, pensions, and in some cases not very long hours. All of these are gone.

Not sure how flexible the Civil Service can be with pay grades and job descriptions. I'm sure there is a certain level of flexibility but I would imagine it is limited.

I'm a public servant too (not CS though) and it is pretty limited though we too see certain people get promoted because of things not necessarily connected to ability to performance.

Sorry, I'm drunk.

Ask for 20%. Or more holidays.

Was the job not advertised with a salary figure Gonz?

If you've been there for ten years like you say, then I'd negotiate for more, but still within the band. You're an asset to the company, not some new boy that doesn't know his arse from his elbow.

legaldinho wrote:

Catholics?

Not quite.....used to be quite the opposite actually.

I'm not sure what the qualities seem to be - the ability to not have your opinion on anything whilst impersonating a nodding dog at meetings seems to be a winning mix in certain parts.

Double or quits

Yeh, erm, from the way you've painted this picture you don't sound too enthusiastic about this role and the added hours/responsibilities, especially for a paltry 5% bump.