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  • Interesting... I remember the hype around Jesse a couple of years back. Does take a while, usually, for young big fellas to come good.

    The issue with trading for him (in my opinion), he seems very similar, physically, talent wise and in the role he'd play to Shaun McKernan and Josh Jenkins.

    Doubt he'd get a run in the ruck either, seeing as we've traded in Angus "I'm too shit to get a game at Richmond' Graham, lol. Gee you'd think we'd learn a thing or two about picking up Richmond offcuts after the Tambling episode. Would rather we'd gone after Marcus Graham from Good Guys Bad Guys to be honest

    Ah well lots of speculation so far, who knows what might end up happening? Still hoping that Sydney will come over all benevolent and give us Rohan.
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  • Beat me to it.

    Oh fuck seems to be the go. No tippet for us, and you guys may as well be coached by Pagan for the next few years.
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  • Indeed.

    If things are as they're stated in the article, why on earth is Trigg seeking clarification on the document now? Wouldn't it have been more sensible to do that 3 YEARS ago back before it was signed off on? Amateur hour, embarrassing stuff.

    Emma Quayle, i think, is one of the few football journalists who wouldn't go off half cocked over something like this either.

    AFL site says there will be an official statement later in the day. Anxious/terrified to hear the full details.
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  • It doesn't get any better. Seems like all parties, Adelaide, Tippet, and his management have done some dumb stuff. particularly because they have outed themselves.
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    THE letter that has haunted Adelaide chief Steven Trigg and could end his AFL career has now been exposed as secretive, expensive and clearly in breach of the rules of the game.

    Trigg finally told his chairman Rob Chapman about the club's three-year-old side deal with Kurt Tippett a week ago. Chapman finally saw the dreaded piece of damaging evidence two days ago courtesy of AFL investigator Brett Clothier.

    According to directors on the Adelaide board, none had possessed any knowledge of the deal until Trigg admitted its existence to Chapman immediately after returning home from an overseas holiday.

    The AFL asked questions of Adelaide in August 2011 after The Age reported a ''highly unusual'' agreement between Tippett and the Crows. The league was satisfied there was nothing to investigate, but the board knew nothing of the AFL's questions.

    Advertisement As soon as Chapman learnt that the Crows had offered Tippett third-party inducements - inducements it has now been revealed the club promised to underwrite - not to mention trade Tippett to the club of his choice at the end of three years, the senior Westpac adviser insisted they contact AFL chief Andrew Demetriou.

    It is not known whether Trigg revealed last Friday to Chapman that the explosive document included a direction not to mention any of this to the AFL.

    ''What are they doing?'' Demetriou is said to have originally demanded of the Crows. ''How can they have been so stupid?''

    Demetriou would have changed his tune as the truth continued to unfold. If the Crows planned to claim ignorance of the AFL rules, as Tippett's manager Peter Blucher has reportedly done, or stupidity, they should think again.

    Trigg has not offered to resign, nor has his resignation been sought - yet. But it seems difficult to envisage how he can survive this.

    The AFL's auditors will move into the club as early as today, but certainly by Monday. It seems beyond doubt the club will be hurt in the long term by this deal, not only with a fine which should prove at least six figures, but also with draft penalties.

    It has not been lost on anyone at either head office or AAMI Stadium that the Crows could simply have paid Tippett the extra $200,000 reportedly mentioned upfront. Staggeringly, they had the room in their salary cap.

    Different versions of what took place have also emerged, with Tippett's management insisting Trigg and his former lieutenant John Reid flew to the Gold Coast at the end of 2009 to make the extra offer as a last-ditch attempt to prevent the forward joining the Suns. But Reid has long claimed the letter had been instigated by Blucher and Tippett's father, Tony.

    Tony Tippett launched legal proceedings against Adelaide early this week in a bid to move his son to Sydney, while Blucher has received legal advice not to make any comment. He said enough early this month when he admitted to a ''gentleman's agreement'' between Adelaide and the player.

    Blucher also oversaw the Scully deal, which young Tom denied for much of the 2011 season but most now believe had already taken place.

    Chapman too was refusing to comment yesterday after contacting Adelaide's radio 5AA on Wednesday night in a bid to assure the Crows' members and fans that the club was doing all it could to clear its name.

    Chapman reportedly contacted the AFL yesterday and invited or, perhaps more accurately, urged the league's investigators to come to Adelaide and check every file and email in a bid to demonstrate the club's openness and compliance.

    Incredibly, it was the unfortunate Swan, Jesse White, who seems to have provoked the final stalemate between the Crows and Sydney. Adelaide did not want White but Sydney seemed determined to offload him.

    What is known is that the Crows would have been happy with pick 23 and had the trade taken place on that basis no one would have been any the wiser. Whatever the other legal ramifications, Tippett faces possible deregistration.

    The Sydney board met early yesterday and is understood to be satisfied that no one at the Swans was aware of the deal, although the Brisbane Lions and Gold Coast certainly were more than aware of its existence, or at least the draft tampering part.

    While several clubs have been advised that any trade involving Tippett before today's deadline is unlikely to be approved, Brisbane remains interested in securing his services. That would now almost certainly only happen in the draft, but Gold Coast too could take him with little interest from the Giants.

    How ironic it would be if the forward ended up with the Lions, the club which attempted to secure him in the trade period last year and the year before. How much better that result would have been for Adelaide and its long-serving chief executive.
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  • Jesus. Definitely not just 'amateur hour' like i naively thought (hoped) earlier in the week. Honestly don't know where to start with all of that!

    Maybe the most worrying thing is the 200k outside the salary cap when there was space to pay it - that can't just be mere stupidity there has to be something else going on there, surely.

    If one good thing's come out of this, at least Trigg's head will roll and hopefully every one else's who was involved. Will be small comfort while we're down the bottom of the ladder for the next decade though. Poor old Brenton Sanderson.

    edit: the board says they knew nothing - they must have noticed something a bit sus about the 200k incrementally being dispersed? i might be missing something, but either they knew, or the books were being cooked. whatever happened, i'm assuming more folks new about it than's been let on so far.
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  • Tippet has fucked himself too. He's gonna get deregistered, and be massively unpopular wherever he ends up. If he doesn't get deregistered, I assume there's no way he ends up staying in Adelaide? Wow, that would be awkward.
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  • haha, imagine that. i'm sure he was already hated enough at AFC after sending out his farewell text message.

    yeah, you'd definitely think he'll be missing some footy, whether if that's a reletively short term suspension or a year or two deregistration. I guess his manager is screwed as well.

    Gee, his old man sounds like a maniac, pursuing legal action over an illegal deal. Must be very embarrassing when fathers gets involved in contracts like this, ala David Cloke and Dmir Dokic. If my dear old dad came into my office and pushed for a pay rise for me, i'd be tempted to jump out the window in all honesty.
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  • What'd he say in the text?
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  • Little bit patronising, jumped the shark with the last line. Buggered off to QLD to avoid telling the team in person while pretending to make up his mind about whether to re-sign.

    He wrote: "Boys, this morning, I have told the club that I won't be renewing my contract for 2013.

    "Making my decision has been one of the toughest processes I have ever been through.

    "I have asked the club to shoot through an email to you all but in case it doesn't get through I want to thank you for your support and friendship over the past six years.

    "Have absolutely loved playing alongside you all.

    "You are all friends for life! I'll be in touch. Love KT.''
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  • Isn't he sweet.
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    What the hell, I step off the internet for a few weeks and this shit happens.  At least we got Caddy, McIntosh and Rivers.  Every second year, that's the cycle.
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  • But enough about Adelaide. Look, a deflection!

    http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/tanking-affair-afl-to-lift-the-lid-on-melbournes-vault-20121030-28h3c.html

    Big start of the off season. Supposedly an AFL footballer has been up to a bit of stalking as well, but haven't read up on that yet...

    How long before Kum Duthie pops up again?

    EDIT: beat me to the punch!
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  • WHERE IZZY PLAYING?!?!?!

    I would have gone for Izzy Straddlin' NRL or some shit

    http://www.theroar.com.au/2012/11/02/folau-quits-afl-but-where-izzy-playing-in-2013/
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  • Heh. I live right near that creek and used to live around the corner from the shops at the start. Go me.
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    Excellent, that's the best one of those I've seen.  Sadly, it isn't football related so must be removed ASAP.
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    The AFL, gawd.  They're the worst thing about football.
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    The AFL, gawd.  They're the worst thing about football.

    What about Sam Newman?
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    As an old Geelong player I can't help but admire the man.
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    There's a couple of new articles on the age sports page regarding this, the more interesting of which detailing how we apparently attempted to cover up our dodgy paper trail with another dodgy paper trail.  Wtf is this Homer Simpson bullshit we've been pulling?
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  • It gets worse
    Richard Tambling's spot on the Adelaide list is safe

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/new-letter-emerges-on-tippett-20121113-29ajx.
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  • This morning the number 18 player, Brian Roet, from Melbourne in the 1964 Grand Final between Melbourne and Collingwood came into my store to get some help removing the DVD of said final from his player.
    It was great having a chat with him, albeit briefly. Would have loved to have a proper sit down with him. He said he played in the league whilst he was studying to be a doctor and they got something like 10 or 20 dollars a game.
    It was also the last final that Melbourne have won.

    A random start to the day but fantastic too, he was a really nice guy and I think he liked the fact that I was excited to meet him.

    You can watch the replay on youtube here:

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    The important thing is, Colllingwood lost.  Melbourne in its current form, on field and off, are about as far away from that day as you could get.

    P.S. last grand final yes, they have won lesser finals since then.
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  • When you got movies like Tom Cruise in them, you can't lose
  • My friend's (Robb, if you're wondering Skerret) cousin got the third draft pick for North Melbourne, didn't even know he played footy even though I've spent a fair time with him and his family. Be interesting to see how he goes.
    Here's his page:
    http://www.kangaroos.com.au/tabid/4912/default.aspx?newsid=151589

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