I still find it a bit weird in the sequels that in general all the new characters (Rey, Finn, Poe, Kylo) were good characters, well cast and very well acted, and yet still the writing and the story dragged them down. Such a shame for that cast but although I increasingly disliked the films I still have affection for those characters.

Which film was Johnson Debacle in again?

He had a cameo as a stormtrooper.

regmcfly wrote:

Was yoga in RoS? Genuinely lost here

No, just General pilates.

Or was that The Last Jedi?

RedDave2 wrote:

Was yoga in RoS? Genuinely lost here

No, just General pilates.

This made me chortle.


I don't see the problem with lore in Star Wars. In fact quite the opposite, I loved seeing the Jedi ruins on Jeddah in R1 and stuff like that. I think a big problem is the everything must be connected part and all things must be explained (as in showing Han's kessel run). But equally I have no problem with the new trilogy still keeping the OG players on the board to transition to the new cast. 
Done right, a star wars movie could be anything.

The BIG problem though has to be the lack of planning on Disney's side. There should have been a clear story to tell over the 3 movies and there wasn't.
JJ did a great job on TFA.
But then Johnson came in and tried to undo a lot of the foundations laid in TFA and didn't really advance the story much.
That left ROS in a terrible position.
The movies were fighting against each other.
I think thats the big flaw that needs sorting out.

In other news, stumbled on this and some funny stuff...
https://twitter.com/i/events/853699857915183108?s=21

https://twitter.com/kibblesmith/status/1290148678531837954?s=21

No amount of cuts will save that movie.

It seems to me the worst enemy of so many big films is that the producers get their fingers too deeply into the mix.  Who knows how Star Wars: Solo might have turned out if those fucking producers hadn’t shunted the original directors.  It can’t have been any worse than what we got.

My pet film in this regard: Alien 3.  That film was fucked so hard by the producers that it’s a miracle it turned out as well as it did.  Fincher’s vision, strangled as it might have been, still shone pretty brightly.  I went to the cinema for that one and saw it, even in that phenomenal title sequence.

George lucas's scripts for the trilogy were dropped in their entirety which is why he's keen apparently to do his own epsiode 7,8,9 and maybe dump the current 7,8,9 into an alternate timeline.

Katheen kennedy is rumoured to be losing her job at lucasfilm due to the mess she has created by interfering with the various movies.

There's like, zero substantiated evidence for that. Her contract for Star Wars is up in 2021, after it was renewed in 2018, the last time she was rumoured to be getting the nudge.

Locking the stable door after the horse has spent 8 years making a series of poor decisions across the production of 5 movies.

Tempy wrote:

There's like, zero substantiated evidence for that. Her contract for Star Wars is up in 2021, after it was renewed in 2018, the last time she was rumoured to be getting the nudge.

This is fully correct. Anything that happens following is coincidence.

Or well timed

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/989123-lucasfilm-president-kathleen-kennedy-contract-renewed-through-2021/amp

Theres also this rumour (july 2020)

DISNEY WANTS GEORGE LUCAS TO SAVE STAR WARS

Regarding George Lucas, it's claimed Disney wants George Lucas to take the reins from Kathleen Kennedy and save Star Wars.

"Disney investors have been trying to get George Lucas back for a few months now," explains Doomcock. "Up until a few weeks ago, Lucas would change the subject when asked about returning, avoiding the topic, or responding in a noncommital way. Well, about three weeks ago, they asked Lucas point-blank, 'What would it take to get you on board with heading up Lucasfilm?' Allegedly, George Lucas said this: 'If I were to return, I have four conditions that would have to be met.'"

The four conditions George Lucas wants from Disney to return to Star Wars includes:
Condition #1: I get to make my Sequel Trilogy.
Condition #2: I have full creative power until I decide to hand it off.
Condition #3: Kathleen Kennedy is gone.
Condition #4: Disney agrees to never ever mess with the original trilogy, leaving it untouched.

Doomcock offers that Lucas closed out the communication with Disney noting that none of this is negotiable, which saw Disney respond: "So when do you start?"

https://cosmicbook.news/george-lucas-saving-star-wars-kathleen-kennedy-jj-abrams?amp

This fits in with a rumour I've heard from Apocalypsevagina that Disney are planning to use the control chips that the COVID-19 vaccine will place inside of us to beam George Lucas' sequel trilogy directly into our heads.