poprock wrote:

This is kind of what’s bugging me about the show. Maybe it’s not as clever as everyone’s trying to think it is. Maybe it’s just a straightforward sci-fi about AI and consciousness.

Sure, but HBO has pumped millions into it and without two timelines it makes no sense. It's not at all straightforward.

Reason I cried spoiler over timelines is because I'm sure it will be revealed this season.

Yeah aye we see the Westworld logo in the present too, when the crew goes to sublevel 83 which is cold storage. And apparently producers tweeted that in this show. Even the logos are important.

Once you see it, you can't unsee it.

@Gonz all of this I have completely not noticed. Mainly because I've had the show on, but not really been watching it as much as I should. I don't find it's a show that I'm hooked on, so I end up on my phone only half watching it. It's obvious I've missed a lot of visual threads.

Agree with most of that, I'd even say Hopkins is almost dialling it in. Harris seems to be having a ball and he's very watchable. The rest of the cast are just ok. Don't think I can bring myself to watch the episodes again. In fact, I just watched the theory video.

Good watch that Gonz, cheers.

Thought Hopkins vs Man in black was a good scene this week too.

When I can be arsed I'm gonna start arguing about VR

I was well in on this after the first episode, and the two timelines thing makes sense, but it just feels like an absolute mess. Its the whole problem with 'mystery' style shows, half the stuff feels like they're just flinging it at the screen and hoping some of it sticks.

Like Lost, essentially. And that shit bores me to tears sadly. Hopkins and Harris are great as expected, every other character I give no fucks about. I'll stick with it though, hoping it changes my opinion.

This week its finally going somewhere. Good episode.

I've changed my mind.

I thought maybe sections totally ruined the whole episode. The whole time it seemed implausible. Why would the butchers do as she said. Why did they not simply do the opposite and reduce her perception. Why was she shown around the place. Why did no one notice at all what was going on. Terrible, awful episode that established basically that there are no rules, anything can happen, and only morons are going to enjoy watching this tripe. I'm close to done with this series. Some people asked the same questions. Nolan said wait for ep 8. Wtf? This is episode 6. Awful, awful show. Not even the satisfaction of Arnold = Bernard being closer to established saved it for me. Fucking shite episode, worse than the last, which was the worst so far. Smells like a fuck up to me.

How the fuck have they got clearance to alter her behavior then? It seems like a pretty major thing to have access to.

Why didn't anyone notice them talking to her? Or her holding a scalpel to ginger dick's throat? The walls are fucking transparent, presumably so security can keep tabs on them to stop this kind of bullishit.

Presumably whoever is dicking around with their behavior is allowing this to happen (the head security guy? Dunno his name) to help with the data stealing? Anything else and it's just plain silly. Maybe it's still silly.

I still enjoyed it despite all that bollocks, Thandie's tour was a great watch no matter how much my brain was calling bullshit on it.

I was pondering if the Asian butcher could be a robbit too, placed in the labs to help others gain sentience as part of Arnold's plan. The 'We feel the same.' and 'How do you know?' bits stuck in my head, but I'm probably just making excuses for some shitty writing, and I'm not even sure what Arnold wanted/plans so I'll stop now before the nurse comes back and finds me rambling.

The slight incredulity of Thandie's walkabout didn't spoil it as a scene for me. Just elevated the sense of horror of the chop shop and pieces of meat laid bare. You guys over analyse stuff too much. Just sit back and enjoy the ride.

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