GooberTheHat wrote:His history stuff is good though.
Bollockoff wrote:Speaking generally can an American national be expected to have a well rounded dextrous grasp of modern day int politics? Genuine question. I wonder often if it's a woods through the trees thing not their fault but from the environment from birth.
Facewon wrote:Bollockoff wrote:Speaking generally can an American national be expected to have a well rounded dextrous grasp of modern day int politics? Genuine question. I wonder often if it's a woods through the trees thing not their fault but from the environment from birth.
Yes? There's plenty of smart folks.
regmcfly wrote:I've got rid of Idle thumbs coz theyre out of ideas and I'm onto Waypoint as the smartest shit out there. Plus they got Danielle Riendeau from the thumbs
Childintime wrote:Dan Carlin is a fucking hack, too.
Bollockoff wrote:regmcfly wrote:I've got rid of Idle thumbs coz theyre out of ideas and I'm onto Waypoint as the smartest shit out there. Plus they got Danielle Riendeau from the thumbs
I've given up on Idle Weekend because Danielle and other non-memorable man meandee about too much I don't care about.
Fortune to them though.
legaldinho wrote:Chomsky exchange for a start. Rational my arse.
legaldinho wrote:Sam Harris is a self publicising shill and an intellectual fraud. He seems to be making a good living from fooling idiots on the internet, but has zero credibility in the serious academic world. Word to the wise, stone, be very skeptical.
"The outrage that Muslims feel over US and British foreign policy is primarily the product of theological concerns. Devout Muslims consider it a sacrilege for infidels to depose a Muslim tyrant and occupy Muslim lands — no matter how well intentioned the infidels or malevolent the tyrant. Because of what they believe about God and the afterlife and the divine provenance of the Koran, devout Muslims tend to reflexively side with other Muslims, no matter how sociopathic their behavior."
Stopharage wrote:Harris is a self-serving bigot. A cursory investigation - beyond his own wittering and inane rambling - clearly demonstrates this. I mean, wtf:-"The outrage that Muslims feel over US and British foreign policy is primarily the product of theological concerns. Devout Muslims consider it a sacrilege for infidels to depose a Muslim tyrant and occupy Muslim lands — no matter how well intentioned the infidels or malevolent the tyrant. Because of what they believe about God and the afterlife and the divine provenance of the Koran, devout Muslims tend to reflexively side with other Muslims, no matter how sociopathic their behavior."
Muslims in Iraq and elsewhere have been traumatized by war and by decades of repression. But this does not explain the type of violence they wage against us on a daily basis. War and repression do not account for suicidal violence directed against the Red Cross, the U.N., foreign workers, and Iraqi innocents. War and repression do not account for the influx of foreign fighters willing to sacrifice their lives merely to sow chaos. Abu Musab al-Zarqawi is not George Washington with a hood. Sawing the heads off of civilian contractors, humanitarian workers, and journalists is not “resistance” to oppression. It is the work of men who left their hearts in the 7th century. Civilization really does have its enemies, and we have met — and, perhaps, made – many of them in Iraq.
It is time we admitted that we are not at war with “terrorism”; we are at war with precisely the vision of life that is prescribed to all Muslims in the Koran. This is not to say that we are at war with all Muslims, but we are absolutely at war with millions more than have any direct affiliation with Al Qaeda. Every person living in a western democracy should read the Koran and discover the relentlessness with which non-Muslims are vilified in its pages. The idea that Islam is a “peaceful religion hijacked by extremists” is a dangerous fantasy—and it is now a particularly dangerous fantasy for moderate Muslims to indulge.
Facewon wrote:If you read the chomsky exchange and think that noam's the issue.... Wow. Harris has a real problem with how he discusses us/western decision making vs anywhere else. See above re Muslims vs how he may describe how a Western country might think things through. His exchange with chompers is filled with sympathetic takes on western reasons for doing x and y. He has also been unfairly quoted and taken out of context over the years too though. In fairness.
Muslims in Iraq and elsewhere have been traumatized by war and by decades of repression. But this does not explain the type of violence they wage against us on a daily basis
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