RamSteelwood wrote:Han Solo movie does seem to have the odds stacked against it. The biggest hurdle will surely be 'that's not Harrison Ford', but even just what story they tell and how is riddled with potential issues. I'd hope it's a completely separate story that doesn't touch on the mainline films at all...but my guess/fear would be that the film will condense everything we know about Han into the few hours just before a new hope: get falcon, dump Jabba's shipment, do the kessel run, turn up at Tattooine as the star destroyer chasing Leia flies past. All done in a 'Guardians of the Galaxy-lite' style. But then not addressing those things we know about Han would cause just as big an issue for fans that want to see those stories told.
Roujin wrote:A Han Solo film that was like the first 5 minutes of R1 where it's all backstreets and grimy could be good, and they really play up the moral ambiguity of things, have him running jobs for the imperial or something. I doubt that's happening though.
Jesuz that makes it sounds like a Will Smith role.Paul the sparky wrote:They won't though, and he'll probably have the same am I a good guy/do I care/do I believe in something decision to make in this as he did in ANH, rendering his whole arc redundant.
Liveinadive wrote:No Firefly is shit
Actually, yes
Also I can't read Donald Glover without thinking an old black man really is poor casting.
Roujin wrote:How can they fit it all into 2 hours though? They're going to have the same problems R1 and TLJ have with jumping around from thing to the next too quickly.
RamSteelwood wrote:But then not addressing those things we know about Han would cause just as big an issue forfansfools that want to see those stories told.
Roujin wrote:The characters and events are just never going to be that well done in today's format of 2.5 hours with orchestral scores and huge set pieces.
legaldinho wrote:Agreed, I'm not going.
TheDJR wrote:I still want the Obi-Wan standalone with Ewan McGregor, when do you set it though? I suppose it would have to be between Sith and ANH.
poprock wrote:I would love to see it done as a space western. Go full Sergio Leone on it.
Paul the sparky wrote:A bit like how R1 Vader makes ANH Vader look like a pensioner with arthritis in his fight scene.
TheDJR wrote:I still want the Obi-Wan standalone with Ewan McGregor, when do you set it though? I suppose it would have to be between Sith and ANH.
If you’re wondering what sort of stuff was cut, here are some examples:
“Cut out most shots showing female fighters/pilots and female officers commanding people around/having ideas.“
“NO HALDO (sic)! She simply doesn’t exist. Her whole subplot doesn’t exist. The Kamikaze is carried out by Poe. ( = Poe dies.)“
“Leia never scolds, questions nor demotes Poe. He is a respected and very skilled high-ranking member of the resistance.“
“When there’s a scene where a woman is cut in making some important statement that can be substituted by another statement by a guy, then she gets cut out. Works pretty well actually.“
“Wookie eats the Porg, or at least isn’t interrupted in trying to do so.“
“No green milk.” (What the fuck)
Obviously it’s far from perfect. The source is not even on DVD-level. Some of the technical edits were slacked because why not, it’s a CAM source (e.g. some masks and Snoke disappearing). Sometimes there’s an extreme zoom despite the mediocre quality. There are plotholes and continuity errors and some cuts are not as smooth as they should be, especially audio transition-wise.
But for what it’s worth, it can now at least be viewed without feeling nauseaus about most of the terrible big and small decisions they made in this film. Also, at least the intro sequence is now very watchable and actually much cooler without all of Leia’s nitpicking. Now it’s all one united Resistance fighting without inner conflict and that’s much more satisfying to watch. Due to the extreme shortening, the whole movie is much more fast-paced now, at times unfortuantely also rushed due to a lack of usable filler footage.
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