JonB wrote:Well I've only written one post of any substance, but OK. But I don't see the connection you've made there at all. Danny Baker hasn't undermined whatever symbolic value there is in a mixed race royal marriage.
JonB wrote:You've lost me there.No one's even taken the security issue into account. Can you imagine the number of death threats the family have received from domestic enemies, since Meghan has married into the family?
Diluted Dante wrote:You think there would be no one objecting to this is we just swap out Danny Baker for Russell Howard?
Are you high?
Facewon wrote:Getting fired as punishment has issues, however, if we're talking glossing over, one of the reasons folks are ambivalent (myself included) about celebs being fired is the loooooong history of them getting away with any old shit, and not only not getting fired, but continuing with massive pay days and no sanctions at all. See Eddie Maguire out here. President of massive football club, ubiquitous TV personality. Host of a show where his off sider makes clarkson look like contra points. Suggests Adam Goodes would be great as promo guy for King Kong. The week after a fan of his club called Goodes a monkey and goodes had to point her out and had her removed. Big apologies from all. So sincere. Goodes, of course, is aboriginal. He's an absolute champion of the game. And was all but forced to retire because of copping it from fans AFTER that incident. Maguire has gone on to say dumb shit about disabled folk and some other howlers. Meanwhile, monkey comments, blackface Nd other such fuckery continue. In tandem with massive racist structure. Won't someone think of the boomer age white blokes and their oblivious comments! Ffs.
dynamiteReady wrote:...gross incompetence...
Perhaps people are just people and don't think about something in a certain way sometimes. It's seems to me something that's easily done, and since his first reaction was an apology and to remove it, I'm not sure what major harm has been done.dynamiteReady wrote:So again, at the very least, if Danny Baker was unaware of the above, he was stupid, and should be sacked for gross incompetence. Because his joke can be clearly seen by most people to fit in with the sentiment illustrated by those two examples. And the image definitely can be used for a nefarious purpose. It's a bit worrying that a number of people on here don't quite see that, frankly.
This as well, though.Tempy wrote:I also believe that the post was easy to construe as offensive, and I can understand why many minority people on twitter (where it was posted) have taken offence at it. Our old chum Ian Evenden wrote about it too, as his daughter is also mixed race, and the connotations of the image upset him. Given the current climate, the way minorities feel, the way we’re listing effortlessly into a white supremacist, conservative, alt-right political world that is doing morning but enshrine centuries of institutes of systematic oppression that constantly batter down those less privileged than us, and Baker, I totally understand the outrage.
After Brand and Wossy’s voice-message hijinks, one would presume that all radio personnel are on a short leash.JonB wrote:...Or would you rather save that kind of punishment for someone who actually does appear to be racist, or hateful in some other way?
JonB wrote:So do you really want someone who isn't racist, who has (AFAIK) no history of racism in about 30 years of broadcasting to get fired for this? Or would you rather save that kind of punishment for someone who actually does appear to be racist, or hateful in some other way?So again, at the very least, if Danny Baker was unaware of the above, he was stupid, and should be sacked for gross incompetence. Because his joke can be clearly seen by most people to fit in with the sentiment illustrated by those two examples. And the image definitely can be used for a nefarious purpose. It's a bit worrying that a number of people on here don't quite see that, frankly.
Kow wrote:Friend of mine's kid, when she was about 2 or 3, was in a supermarket queue on her dad's shoulder. There was a black couple with kids behind them. For some reason unknown she decided to start roaring "I don't like black people" repeatedly. Cue much embarrassment on everyone's part. She was later fired.
Armitage_Shankburn wrote:I was being serious! I like the dude. But he had to go. You can't do chimp jokes with the first royal to have African genes ever. C'mon.
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