SpaceGazelle wrote:Yossarian wrote:I don’t think that’s really a fair comparison, not least because nobody has ever tried to exterminate the British for the crime of being British.
Wtf. My point was we tried to exterminate everyone else for not being British and there is a valid comparison here with the Israeli gov, and I would judge pro israeli jews in exactly the same way as i judge pro British twats. It's condescending not to.
Yossarian wrote:Kow wrote:@yoss It's not really a conflation though, as Israel describes itself as a Jewish state. It has a predominantly Jewish population. It was created expressly for Jewish people. It takes great pride in, and places great importance on its Jewish heritage. I honestly can't see how referring to the people that live there as Jews is offensive. Particularly in distinguishing them from the other people who live there and who are not Jewish but are Israeli. But as I said, I won't interchange the terms if it causes offence. And I could also be completely out of touch with all this as I'm an old curmudgeon who lives in a place with hardly any Jewish population.
That’s what Israel does, sure, but that doesn’t make it a two way street. And can you imagine what it would be like to be held responsible for the actions of a place you may never have visited or even particularly give a shit about just because it is claimed to have been set up in the name of your ethnicity? Even more so if your ethnicity makes you the target of attacks and hate anyway.
Edit: @Kow in case it gets lost in the page turn.
Yossarian wrote:Been meaning to post this in here, it sounds like the win Trump’s been claiming due to tariffs was, in fact, spin in the first place. The agreements were made months ago according to the NYT.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/08/us/politics/trump-mexico-deal-tariffs.html
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