Facewon wrote:That does help indeed. It tells me that self build is cheaper, which I knew, but also gave me an idea of by how much. It also shows I can't really get within console prices ballpark, which I figured, but good to know. Looking at the little asrock then, I start to think about pure streaming hub, so I can use vpn easily. My noob understanding would be videocard would wanna still be good, ram far less important, although not nothing, because multi chrome tabs can = chug. And other stuff could be far less hardcore. No need for 4k for me, new TV is a loooooong way off. Basically, instead of matching my laptop, I'd just have a telly watch option, plus current laptop, and continue to save cash for replacement laptop in a year or so. (with a much better idea of what I want. And with a focus on being able to upgrade.)
SpaceGazelle wrote:I think most of us built our own.
GurtTractor wrote:PCPartpicker is indeed an excellent website, and there is a Aussie version, you select the country at the top right -
PCPartPicker Part List
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor ($188.88 @ Amazon Australia)
Motherboard: MSI B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard ($188.00 @ Shopping Express)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($108.00 @ Shopping Express)
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.00 @ Shopping Express)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon RX 570 8 GB PULSE ITX Video Card ($215.00 @ Umart)
Case: Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case ($58.00 @ Umart)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA GM 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular SFX Power Supply ($133.10 @ Newegg Australia)
Total: $1039.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-11-26 09:45 AEDT+1100
That is a rough idea, I don't know how painful that price is for you. You can cut down the SSD a little, though that 1TB is a decent deal I think. I've not included the usual Windows retail version, either an OEM key or Linux might be a good idea for a budget. I hear Linux has excellent Steam support for most games now, with OS's like Manjaro... Let me know if you want me to dig up some deets on that.
There is a lot of choices for the case, so you'll have to research that, look at images of the case in situ for an idea if it suits. Silverstone do a lot of decent small cases, there's one with a handle that I've liked the look of for a while. There's been some very fancy and very compact (but difficult to build in) cases released recently I think, can't remember the names off the top of my head though. You will need check that specific cases will accommodate specific hardware like graphics cards and PSUs, worth looking at build videos of them too.
If you want a particularly silent machine let me know and I can look into things like PSU noise in more detail.
Another cool option that won't be as fast as that laptop but is incredibly tiny is the Asrock Deskmini A300 -
Can fit to the back of a screen with a VESA mount, small enough to palm. Uses a Ryzen APU, pretty neat. Only really good for low end stuff though.
Oof just remembered another option, the Hades Canyon NUC, an unholy union between an Intel CPU and AMD GPU. Was actually a really cool product and presumably still works pretty well. Certainly nothing as tiny with that power. https://computers.mwave.com.au/electronics/Hades-Canyon Absolutely no idea if those prices are any good.
Err hope that helps.
Keep in mind upgradability and how easy or not it is to get in and about these kinds of systems, it's worth looking into to make sure you'll be able to switch out graphics cards and things in the future. Another factor can be the noise, with prebuilts you don't get to handpick stuff that might have better fans. When I put builds together I always try to choose PSUs that have a silent fan mode at idle for example..Birdorf wrote:I do enjoy building my own, but if I see a Corsair One with a decent discount I'll be all over it. I have dreams about them.
regmcfly wrote:Can someone in the know let me know how future proof that is?
bad_hair_day wrote:Lord_Griff wrote:Wait index isn't wireless?
Probably be around £300 for the adapter.
Oh yeah. I need to read more carefully.voices wrote:Yeah, hence the b450 I listed. The new intels use a new socket too, so I don’t think there’s much scope to upgrade without a new mobo.
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