regmcfly wrote:Warren
God, that's depressing.RedDave2 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jul/14/revealed-phoenix-womans-brutal-police-assault-shown-on-body-camera-footage Jesus America, sort out your police force.
Funkstain wrote:Again so we’re clear: people like me (and dare I say you?) are fine almost whatever happens. We have businesses or decent jobs and a mortgage we can afford and we’re already well educated (on paper at least) and our children are healthy and we go on holidays and so on and so on. We don’t really need these huge changes. We’re just appalled at trump’s awfulness and Johnson’s ineptitude. So anything not as bad looks better. But does it really affect us? At least now? You want to stop future trumps and brexits and Hungaries, you have to stop bidens
GooberTheHat wrote:What are peoples bets for Biden's VP?
regmcfly wrote:Warren
GooberTheHat wrote:What are peoples bets for Biden's VP? I'm going for Susan Rice.
RedDave2 wrote:GurtTractor wrote:
Are we really saying that 4 more Years of Trump and 4 years of Biden would be more or less the same?
That last four years have been unique in how damaging a single president can be to both Americas infrastructure and the world in general.
I get that overall in terms of ideology the 2 main parties are more similar than they might advertise but Trump has been awful to have as a president figure head. Not only has he fractured American society more than anyone else (arguably those cracks were there and might have gone anyway but boy did he add weight to the hammer) he has emboldened similar rulers around the world. Again, they were always there but I think having Trump as almost a framework guide on how to act has been terrible.
yourfavouriteuncle wrote:Like a lot seem to really hate Biden too though i guess.
yourfavouriteuncle wrote:Fair enough. I’m still betting a full English pound that Trump gets back in and if he doesn’t actually win the vote then I’m fully expecting him to refuse to leave and to try start a Dictatorship or something.
LivDiv wrote:I think Hilary was another level.
At a time the American people literally wanted anything different the Dems put forward the embodiment of the staus quo.
He was new then and offering something different. Now he's the one that's been stinking up the White House for the last 4 years. And he still only won by a quirk of the system.yourfavouriteuncle wrote:I just think Russia will hack that many polling stations again that Trump is bound to win. He was a fucking joke last time, even up to the actual night of the count but there you go, somehow he ‘won’ and it’ll happen again.
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