Well August is generally hotter. All depends on the gulf stream, which is doing us a massive favour right now by being south of the uk. We'd be roasting otherwise.

Wet bulb event recorded in Iran

40C temperature, 32 degree dew point, 64% rh.
Wet bulb approx 33 degrees.

Wet bulb over 30 is fatal for prolonged periods.

https://twitter.com/US_Stormwatch/status/1680700765265072128?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1680700765265072128|twgr^313beef07e2551fbd7d24d4a4502d763476a67b2|twcon^s1_&ref_url=https://www.theguardian.com/environment/live/2023/jul/17/europe-heatwave-2023-us-asia-heat-extreme-severe-weather-fires-flash-floods-flooding-record-breaking-heat-wave-stress-temperature-red-alert-climate-crisis

The schadenfreude is rich.
Shame everyone suffers.

I still think there is little an individual can do in their daily lives but not jumping on flights on a whim is certainly a big one. Flying really needs to be considered a once every few years thing, max.

With no pragmatic poiltical support, individual contributions is all we have. It's powerful if enough do it and doing it voluntarily seems the only way forward. 

The sad thing is I think the race to stop it becoming runaway is going to be quite tight - AI can help but it's not there yet. Countries are depopulating very quickly and the ones that aren't don't contribute nearly as much per person. The US is getting more populous but that's due to immigration. The US and Europe can do more per person than anywhere on Earth, but of course we don't because we've forgotten what sacrifice is because we've never had to experience it. We need to stop thinking about economic growth and concentrate on staying alive.

You could have both if everyone went Green New Deal and fundamentally restructured the economy, but it's too risky politically, would hurt for a while and therefore it wouldn't be long before the right called bullshit on the whole thing and blamed immigrants.

Unfortunately they are funneling that money into the worst individual polluters. Jet set Rishi clearly gives no fucks.

GooberTheHat wrote:

Maybe making everyone poorer is the government's way to reduce consumption?

That's invariably what's going to happen anyway. Ukraine and Brexit are going to look like a birthday present compared to what climate change is going to do to food prices.

That was back in the day when people understood facts. Now we're also dealing with the internet. It's getting better in the American South because it's fucking melting in front of their eyes, but a third of the people living in the hotspots still don't think it's due to climate change.

Its alright for them, they are going to a better place innit.

I still think it'll have to get to the point of a major catastrophe in some rich countries before there'll be a panic response of mass cloud seeding or putting dust into the atmosphere to induce a cooling effect. It'll be like COVID where no one took the threat of a pandemic that seriously then had to react like crazy to it after it had already spread.

What if Mr Burns is the saviour?

GurtTractor wrote:

I still think it'll have to get to the point of a major catastrophe in some rich countries before there'll be a panic response of mass cloud seeding or putting dust into the atmosphere to induce a cooling effect. It'll be like COVID where no one took the threat of a pandemic that seriously then had to react like crazy to it after it had already spread.

Yeah there'll be a tipping point and then emissions will fall like crazy. Then a swing back when the climate is still getting worse and it hasn't had an immediate impact.

Vote green, that's the best thing one individual can do

We are still in the phase where 'climate extremists' are a thing. This would be fine if the term was reserved exclusively for those refusing to act, but the interests of capital have successfully doublethunked peeps upside-down and back-to-front on this one. that's how fucked we are.

exponential fuck shit uppery, and keep doubling down too

check the news. other people have first gear covered already.