The British Politics Thread - The Bear and Badger

LivDiv

Maths!

In short though Houchen lost 22% of the vote share compared to 2021 (73%), so that kind of loss is translated over to what the MPs in the area got in 2019. Not sure of the exact formula but assuming they didnt just subtract 22.

I couldn't catch the full graphic but it had the MP with the previous highest vote share now on 24%.

Diluted Dante

acemuzzy wrote:

LivDiv wrote:

Tories have won Tees Valley. Labour have conceded. 51%-43% at current count. The gap was closed significantly though and according to Sky News when translated to parliamentary seats would see them all go to Labour in that area.

How does that translation work??

Houchen had a significantly bigger majority than any of the MP's. He won something like 70% last time out. Even a less significant swing would wipe out all of the MP's majorities, though in reality it could even be more considering the personal appeal of Houchen.

LivDiv

Houchen will probably get more out of a Labour government than he has from the Tories in Westminster anyway. He's laughing.

LivDiv

This is the chart Sky keep showing but for some reason only on a studio screen with someone sitting in front of it.

Diluted Dante

LivDiv wrote:

I couldn't catch the full graphic but it had the MP with the previous highest vote share now on 24%.

That graphic was the majorities at the last election. So Simon Clarke had a majority of 24.3%. The others were all under 10%.

Diluted Dante

Whilst the Tories are getting pasted at the ballot box, they're also getting done over in court.

https://news.sky.com/story/governments-climate-plan-ruled-unlawful-by-high-court-13127958

b0r1s

Yeah but courts know nothing, Rwanda proved that.

LivDiv

This pair of Tory Boys lol

b0r1s

Fucking hell. That's your problem right there.

Rev

Nothing I couldn't sort out with a screw driver and 27 seconds.

Wookienopants

Rev wrote:

Nothing I couldn't sort out with a screw driver and 27 seconds.

That's worryingly precise. Have you practiced??

Diluted Dante

A BBC reporter Rob Mayor quoted a Labour source as saying "It's the Middle East, not West Midlands that will have won Street the Mayoralty. Once again Hamas are the real villains."

A Labour Party Spokesperson said: ‘The Labour party has strongly condemned this racist quote which has not come from anyone who is speaking on behalf of the party or who’s values are welcome in the party.’

But... how would they know?

Rev

Wookienopants wrote:

Rev wrote:

Nothing I couldn't sort out with a screw driver and 27 seconds.

That's worryingly precise. Have you practiced??

Always practicing..

LivDiv

Diluted Dante wrote:

Whilst the Tories are getting pasted at the ballot box, they're also getting done over in court. https://news.sky.com/story/governments-climate-plan-ruled-unlawful-by-high-court-13127958

WOKE!

b0r1s

Rev wrote:

Wookienopants wrote:

Rev wrote:

Nothing I couldn't sort out with a screw driver and 27 seconds.

That's worryingly precise. Have you practiced??

Always practicing..

Must try harder

GooberTheHat

We're only half way through the count and the Tories have already lost 189 councillors.

LivDiv

Labour as the second biggest party are the main beneficiaries but the story seems to be an exodus from the Tories and they are going left, right and centre.

The problem the Tories have as far as I can see is that it doesn't matter what they pledge, if the move more centre or go further right. The public has no reason to believe they will deliver nor stay on that path for more than 18 months.

Diluted Dante

I've just realised that the RA on the BBC I'd been assuming was Reform is actually Residents' Association, so Reform haven't been doing the reasonably well I thought with 14 seats, they have in fact not won any.

The Lib Dems have won more councils and councilors than the Tories so far also.

LivDiv

Labour win North East mayor.

Driscoll came second with 28%, very good result for Driscoll running as an independent. Obviously not a win but enough to make Labour take notice.

LivDiv

Diluted Dante wrote:

I've just realised that the RA on the BBC I'd been assuming was Reform is actually Residents' Association, so Reform haven't been doing the reasonably well I thought with 14 seats, they have in fact not won any. The Lib Dems have won more councils and councilors than the Tories so far also.

Oh, Ive made the same mistake.

Diluted Dante

Galloways mob have won 2 seats.

LivDiv

Rishi Sunak has a Labour Mayor lololol

Say it quietly

Spoiler:

b0r1s

Counting started for my council, don't hold out much hope TBH, but voted tactically where I could.

Rev

After all the shouting and bullshit Reform haven't won anything? that is glorious.

LivDiv

Sunak's speech with Houchen was hilarious.
All cheers as he congratulated Houchen, fair enough the guy won after all.

Then Sunak says Labour were relying on winning this one to have a hope of winning the GE. Then says he knows the people will stick with the Tories.
The crowd go silent while he's running full David Brent energy.

Of course he has to be positive, has to big up his own party but he looked like a swivel eyed loon. Totally delusional. The really scary thing is I think he believes it.

b0r1s

I’d rather politicians said we fucked up but we’re gonna go and sort ourselves out and come back with a serious manifesto to run the country. Then I realise I don’t live in an alternate universe.

Rev

LivDiv wrote:

Sunak's speech with Houchen was hilarious. All cheers as he congratulated Houchen, fair enough the guy won after all. Then Sunak says Labour were relying on winning this one to have a hope of winning the GE. Then says he knows the people will stick with the Tories. The crowd go silent while he's running full David Brent energy. Of course he has to be positive, has to big up his own party but he looked like a swivel eyed loon. Totally delusional. The really scary thing is I think he believes it.

I've seen commentary that because he's never had to deal with not getting his own way and not having to actually worry about anything, that's he's built this belief that he's never wrong as everything works out for him. Even in the face of him being ridiculously wrong, he thinks he's doing the right thing and that other people are mistaken. Which is why under all the evidence that the Rwanda deal is unworkable he doesn't listen and ploughs ahead. It's one of the reason's you aren't going to see any regret from him once this is all over. He's a textbook privilege rich boy sociopath, who'll end up on the board of several companies once he fucks off to the US. He genuinely believes like Johnson that none of these failures will be his fault.

LivDiv

Sounds about right.
He probably sees perseverance as a key quality, but he has tipped into pig headedness.

Diluted Dante

That's the Cameron effect.

LivDiv

Haha.
Different type of pig headedness.

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