tigersgogrrr wrote:Well we should have all put in our pensions.
Too bloody right.Brooks wrote:I should have picked last week's lottery numbers too tbh.
Tempy wrote:Brooks wrote:The takeaways that I hadn't seen expressed entirely so tidely: - Crypto 'solves' a problem no one was realistically having: the hacking of data streams. It d9oes nothing about idiots and fuckarses putting bad information in there in the first place - Public ledgers can become really fucking dangerous tools of oppression pretty easily
Good luck taking stuff off the ledger without massive effort either. Total clown shoes behaviour.
https://twitter.com/charliebilello/status/1485317295228522500?s=21% below 2021 high...
Terra $LUNA: -49%
Bitcoin $BTC: -50%
Binance $BNB: -51%
Ethereum $ETH: -53%
Avalanche $AVAX: -64%
Solana $SOL: -66%
Crypto. com $CRO: -67%
Cardano $ADA: -70%
Polkadot $DOT: -71%
XRP $XRP: -72%
Chainlink $LINK: -73%
Shiba Inu $SHIB: -76%
Dogecoin $DOGE: -84%
davyK wrote:Like with any gambler you only hear about the wins.
This is fair enough. If you’re treating them as ridiculously volatile investments that you might lose out on, and try and time your exit right to make a quick buck. Same really applies to NFTs (although that movement has surely peaked now or damn close to it). You can make money from a pyramid scheme if you time it right.b0r1s wrote:Sorry guys I won on ETH. I mean not like a stupid amount but I made a grand and sold it. Still got my XRP that is worth half it was last week but still double what I paid. I always figured this was put in what you can afford and get lucky.
The study confirmed that what looked like many different accounts were in fact two “bots” – automated trading software – that were named Markus and Willy by the traders who identified them. The bots were controlled by a single entity.
For three months in late 2013, Markus and Willy bought and sold bitcoins on Mt Gox. Their trading was unusual: Markus paid no fees, and Willy could execute trades even when the exchange was offline. They bought Bitcoin for nothing and sold it at the market rate. As a detailed, anonymous report on the bots noted, “Markus is somehow buying tons of BTC [Bitcoin] without spending a dime”.
Gandal’s paper showed that Willy and Markus greatly inflated the amount of trading that appeared to be happening on Mt Gox – and with it, the price of Bitcoin. “On the [50] days when they were active”, says Gandal, “Bitcoin’s price… went up by five per cent [per day]. And on the 40 days they weren’t active, Bitcoin’s price actually dropped.”
The effect of this fraudulent trading was such that the price of Bitcoin rose from around $100 to over $1,000 in two months.
https://www.newstatesman.com/business/finance/2021/07/bitcoins-gold-rush-was-always-illusionThe data showed that whenever Bitcoin’s price began to fall, Tether was issued by Bitfinex and sent to two other exchanges, where it was used to buy Bitcoin – which would then rise in price. The team conducted 10,000 simulations see if this could be a chance occurrence. Not one gave the same returns. The algorithms attributed the Tether flows that occurred at the same times as these price rises to a single entity. As they explained in the paper, “this one large player… either exhibited clairvoyant market timing or exerted an extremely large price impact on Bitcoin”.
This time, Bitcoin’s price wasn’t pumped by a few hundred dollars, but by thousands of dollars. In December 2017, its price reached almost $20,000 dollars and the total value of the Bitcoin market exceeded $237bn. Griffin is confident that at least half of this price rise was manufactured using Tether.
monkey wrote:This is fair enough. If you’re treating them as ridiculously volatile investments that you might lose out on, and try and time your exit right to make a quick buck. Same really applies to NFTs (although that movement has surely peaked now or damn close to it). You can make money from a pyramid scheme if you time it right. But clearly, that is not how many are treating this.b0r1s wrote:Sorry guys I won on ETH. I mean not like a stupid amount but I made a grand and sold it. Still got my XRP that is worth half it was last week but still double what I paid. I always figured this was put in what you can afford and get lucky.
monkey wrote:bitcoins-gold-rush-was-always-illusion
GooberTheHat wrote:
Don’t be put off by either the length or the amount of jargon peeps, this should be essential viewing for everyone.mannaboy wrote:No Fucking Thanks.
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