I don't think time travel and alternate realities ever hurt Star Trek too much because presentationally it was always put across as a single coherent prime reality (so, for example, even though individual episodes might alter history or replace characters with duplicates from alternate realities that had their point of divergence within the particular episode, no-one actually cared because outside of the context of the episode it didn't really matter). And if there was a persistent alternate reality it was characterised as being, like, woah, so different.

It does seem like the MCU is gonna massively lean into alternate realities AND time travel as persistent parts of the story - it does feel like it could potentially go wrong. However, characters like Tony Stark and Steve Rogers got written out because the actors left so it's not necessarily exactly like comics where they can do whatever because it's just a case of drawing the characters you want. They're still gonna be a bit more fettered than the comics so that could save it from going too far.

And Rhodey.

poprock wrote:

I dunno about that. They had no problem changing actors for the Hulk.

Right at the start of this project.

The tone of the movies is whats important to me. The mumbo-jumbo I can live with in general as long as the vibe of the movie is fine.

That said the franchise is becoming increasingly mumbo-jumbo heavy to the point I fear of ending up a bit lost as to what the hell is going on and I say that as someone who watches all this stuff and watches the odd YouTube thing filling stuff in.

For these franchise things I have a Dad test. My dad specifically. He enjoys watching these blockbuster movies but won't watch them all or follow along with what is coming up etc and defo won't watch the TV shows.
The test is if I whacked this on would he know what the fuck is happening. I feel Marvel are getting to the point of failing that test.
Infinity War/Endgame probably fail the test but in a justifiable way, they rounded off a slowly building story.
This is a Spiderman film (still the biggest Marvel brand) at the start of the new run of movies. I'm not sure making it so complex is a great idea.

They have done a bang up job overall so I will give them the benefit of the doubt but nothing is forever.

That song lasted forever.

Multiverses are a product of comic narratives becoming too unwieldy and needing resets when X hero has done Y Z times.

That being said, I'm here for Alfred Molina only.

Will be great to have Willem Defoe too. Was that his cackle or a generic one?!

Elf its defo Dafoe. Electro and sandman are both briefly glipsed is the lizard in a blink and youll miss 2 frame dark shot. I assume alternate variant mysterio shows up too. So sinister 6

I dunno. If you were a school kid like Peter i imagine Michael would be pretty terrifying

I’m expecting them to retire the current spider-guy and replace him with that Miles Davis guy at the end of this one.

I've been agreeably surprised by him tbh, but he'll be getting a bit long in the tooth for the roll now...and expensive.

He's meant to be school age in these films. He's currently 25.

Yossarian wrote:

Holland hasn’t even become a journalist in the MCU yet.

Peter Parker wasn't a journalist tho. OG Parker sold photos to The Bugle as a freelancer. There was, I'm lead to believe, a reboot in the comics in the early 2000s where he was hired by The Bugle as a web-designer, so I guess they could go down that route, but I'm still betting on them ditching Holland (cos MONEY), and the whole multiverse/Miles Morales thang gives them the perfect opportunity.
The Spider-Rights between Sony and Marvel are such a fecking minefield that I guess pretty much anything could happen tho.

I'm pretty sure Tony Stark wasn't meant to be 15 years old.