The MCU Spoiler Thread ('free' on Disney+ UK pace) - The Bear and Badger

regmcfly

stellavista wrote:

Watched the latest Thor last night. Meh. A bit of a weird film with some abrupt scene cuts making you feel as if you missed a scene or two in between. Some funny stuff, I did chuckle at the screaming goats every time. Decent enough Friday evening viewing without engaging the brain but the inconsistent tone was a bit weird. Also, Valkyrie was criminally underused.

I watched it last night. It was dull as opposed to the very quickly hitting Ragnarok. Granted there was a lot of the same joke, but it definitely didn't work like the last one and Christian fucking Bale of all things was underused.

superflyninja

Yeah Christian Bale was waaaay underused. He could have been a very interesting baddie.

Yossarian

Just did Love and Thunder myself. I thought it was good fun. More Bale wouldn’t have gone amiss, he was great in it, but other than that, no complaints from me.

Wookienopants

Same as Yoss here, I quite enjoyed it.
It was very silly and the use of Guns N Roses never gets old in my book.
Plus Korg just makes me happy

Yossarian

Actually, I have thought of one other complaint: Russell Crowe’s deeply questionable accent.

Rev

I thought it was fun but considering Ragnarok is one of my favourites, then it had a huge hill to climb to beat that.

Rev

Latest she Hulk wasn't good. Seemed to be like a total filler episode with one decent thing at the end. It's like bobf all over again. Which is crap because Tatiana is really good. The cgi seems to be getting worse.

Lurch666

So watched Black panther 2 the other day and while I enjoyed it due to a technical hitch at the cinema I think I missed the first part of the film.

Spoiler:

Did anything happen before that?

stellavista

Wolverine had a big fight with Dr. Doom, and then the Fantastic Four saved the day before they all disappeared because multiverse. You didn’t miss anything important.

ShabbyMcCrabby

Yossarian wrote:

Actually, I have thought of one other complaint: Russell Crowe’s deeply questionable accent.

Not so questionable if you're from Aus/NZ. Played into a lot of the Greek stereotype comedy kind of characters you see on our stuffs. Wog Boy and the like.

Yossarian

What boy? That definitely makes it more questionable, not less.

n0face

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2005/oct/13/australia.andrewclark

I can't remember what it was I was watching but this came up for me before.

Vela

Yossarian wrote:

What boy? That definitely makes it more questionable, not less.

It's a film made by a Greek-Australian. Same concept as any minority group reclaiming an historic slur.

Yossarian

Ah, at least it’s answerable. Cheers!

Vela

Yeah it probably didn't do big numbers outside Australia.

Diluted Dante

I was very confused about what that word had to do with anyone Greek, until I found out that it has a different meaning in Australia.

monkey

GOTG Xmas Special was really poor. Didn’t laugh. Noticeably low budget. Felt like half of them didn’t want to do it. Seems like a couple of tacked on filming days when they were doing the new film. Star Lord is in about three scenes, all in the same location. Rocket recorded about four lines of dialogue. There wasn’t anything to it really. Kevin Bacon can get fucked. Serious Kevin Bacon, funny Kevin Bacon, Kevin Bacon sending up Kevin Bacon. He’s burned every last ounce of credibility. He’s just the EE man now. Put him in your program and it feels like an advert.

mannaboy

I quite liked it, throwaway fun.

ChopperByrne

My kids loved it, and the first of the two Christmas songs is very catchy.

JMW

Thought it was terrible, seemed to get good reviews everywhere though.

EvilRedEye

Wakanda Forever is out on Disney+. Didn't think that much of it to be honest. Thought Namor ended up being more charismatic than the protagonists!

digi

EvilRedEye wrote:

Wakanda Forever is out on Disney+. Didn't think that much of it to be honest. Thought Namor ended up being more charismatic than the protagonists!

I thought it were terrible.

Gremill

I thought it was better than the first one. Gorgeous design work for the Atlantans and their meso-american society.

b0r1s

That’s your Ms Marvel done. I enjoyed all of that. It had the right level of fun, interesting origin story, mostly good characters (though the gov agent was a bit too cliched) and it had a great style to it, both visually and soundtrack wise. I’d say it’s the second best Marvel TV show after Loki. She-Hulk next I guess.

MattyJ

Ah I still haven't got around to that one.

Syph79

b0r1s wrote:

That’s your Ms Marvel done. I enjoyed all of that. It had the right level of fun, interesting origin story, mostly good characters (though the gov agent was a bit too cliched) and it had a great style to it, both visually and soundtrack wise. I’d say it’s the second best Marvel TV show after Loki. She-Hulk next I guess.

I enjoyed it too. Mad that the people you’ve credited for their style and overall show, had their Batgirl project cancelled for not being fit to release.

Wookienopants

b0r1s wrote:

That’s your Ms Marvel done. I enjoyed all of that. It had the right level of fun, interesting origin story, mostly good characters (though the gov agent was a bit too cliched) and it had a great style to it, both visually and soundtrack wise. I’d say it’s the second best Marvel TV show after Loki. She-Hulk next I guess.

She-Hulk is great! The wife and I really enjoyed it. Very different in tone

b0r1s

Syph79 wrote:

b0r1s wrote:

That’s your Ms Marvel done. I enjoyed all of that. It had the right level of fun, interesting origin story, mostly good characters (though the gov agent was a bit too cliched) and it had a great style to it, both visually and soundtrack wise. I’d say it’s the second best Marvel TV show after Loki. She-Hulk next I guess.

I enjoyed it too. Mad that the people you’ve credited for their style and overall show, had their Batgirl project cancelled for not being fit to release.

The style was absolutely spot on and I loved all the music.

@wookie - the trailer for She-Hulk didn't do anything for me but I've only heard mostly positive stuff, so will see how it goes.

poprock

Feels to me like the TV shows have worked well when they’re lighter in tone. Wandavision, Ms Marvel and She-Hulk have been winners, while Hawkeye and the Captain America/Winter Soldier series were relative duds.

RedDave2

poprock wrote:

Feels to me like the TV shows have worked well when they’re lighter in tone. Wandavision, Ms Marvel and She-Hulk have been winners, while Hawkeye and the Captain America/Winter Soldier series were relative duds.

Horses for courses I guess but I preferred Hawkeye to She-hulk and Ms Marvel.

For me the issue still feels that near all the Marvel TV shows feel like they would make better movies. There's always a bit of padding to be expected in a TV series but the marvels shows were often only 6-8 episodes and even then they never grabbed like a good TV show does. They dont use the extra time to expand characters in a way that is different to the movies, they just extend scenes a bit here and there. Wandavision was the exception as it made some sense with each episode being distinct and having proper cliffhangers from one epsiode to the next. Moon Knight was probaby the worst - I think it would have been a fun movie but it is so light weight for a tv show.

The netflix shows and the better seasons of Agents of Shield, while also included padding, were all so much better in the show format. Cant be certain but it really feels like we have movies just cut into parts here.

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