The Alternate 100 Greatest Games of the Last 30 Years (games released after 1 Oct 1993 only) - The Bear and Badger

EvilRedEye

Edge recently published a list of the 100 greatest games released during Edge’s lifetime. And while it is a list of great games, it’s also a pretty on-brand list that feels like it echoes a certain, fairly specific, outlook on gaming. To put it another way, it’s a good list but I feel like you could put together a completely different list of 100 games and it would be (lack of your Mario 64s etc. aside) be just as valid.

So that’s what I want to do. Nominate your top games for the alternate 100 greatest games of the last 30 years. All games on the Edge top 100 are disqualified. The games have to have been released on 1 October 1993 onwards. You can use a later PAL release date to justify inclusion but not a remaster/remake/retro re-release.

The games on Edge’s list are:

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Alphabetical version for easy reference:

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Moot_Geeza

Good thread will have a think.

hylian_elf

How many? Top 10? 20? 25?

I’d probably struggle with more than 10 that aren’t big hitters. I mean, Okami isn’t on their list but would that count as it’s still a highly thought of and big release etc? How about FFXII which I prefer over other FFs?

EvilRedEye

hylian_elf wrote:

I’d probably struggle with more than 10 that aren’t big hitters. I mean, Okami isn’t on their list but would that count as it’s still a highly thought of and big release etc? How about FFXII which I prefer over other FFs?

Those are good noms. I think Final Fantasy XII in particular is one that would place on a forum list that Edge wouldn’t be as interested in.

Kow

Divinity Original Sin 2, Baldur's Gate 3

b0r1s

Death Stranding
Returnal

hylian_elf

I’ll do a top 10 later. Gotta think about it a bit more. I’m going to purposefully omit the Zeldas that I would put in there and discount Persona 4 as it’s close enough to Persona 5 etc etc.

LivDiv

Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 (I would also accept 2)

I thought this was a criminal omission.
Firstly because it's just a really good franchise but also for the cultural impact the series had. So much of the popularity of the fashion and music of that era was linked to or inspired by THPS. There aren't many games that transcend the gaming market like THPS did.

Wii Sports

A near perfect game for the hardware and again one that went far beyond just gamers gaming and expanded the industry into homes otherwise uninterested. It's a great fun game to this day and one everyone can get involved in.

RamSteelwood

Pes 6
Rocket league
PoP sands of time
Wwf no mercy
Emlyn Hughes international soccer
Excitebike 64
1080 snowboarding
Desert strike
Super Mario bros
Yoshi story
Speedrunners
SWOS
Cannon fodder

Just to get started

b0r1s

Maybe add this to the OP, easier to track what EDGE have used with an AZ list:

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poprock

No Wipeout games on the list seems a bit of a glaring omission.

hylian_elf

Here you go. From my own top 100 or so list. 4 at the top are from my all time top or so. Than some in alphabetical.

NieR Automata
Okami
Final Fantasy XII
Terranigma
Vagrant Story
Castlevania: Circle of the Moon
Celeste
Devil May Cry 3
F.E.A.R
Guilty Gear Xrd
Ikaruga
Mushihimesama Futari
Nex Machina
Returnal

b0r1s

Mariokart 64 feels a bit revisionist. I'm sure they gave it something like a 7 at the time.

poprock

b0r1s wrote:

Mariokart 64 feels a bit revisionist. I'm sure they gave it something like a 7 at the time.

I don’t mind a bit of revisionism. Maybe a game underwhelms on release but you realise after 10 years that you’re still playing it …

EvilRedEye

Some suggestions arising from the ‘game everyone played and thought was great’ survey from a while ago:

A Micro Machines game (except the first one)
A WipEout game
A Super Monkey Ball game
Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved
A Bomberman game (post Oct 1993)
A Worms game
A Forza Horizon game
Sega Rally
A Puzzle Bobble/Bust-A-Move game (post Oct 1993)
A Virtua Tennis game
Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan or Elite Beat Agents
A Bishi Bashi game
Left 4 Dead 1 or 2

b0r1s

OK top 10 in A-Z, cos can't really list in order...

Baldur's Gate 3
Bioshock 2
Death Stranding
Destiny
Emily is Away
Returnal
The Talos Principle
Tony Hawks Pro Skater 2
Valheim
Wipeout

EvilRedEye

Final Fantasy VI and Xenoblade Chronicles feel like glaring omissions. Edit: also Pokémon Gold/Silver which I think are generally regarded more highly than the originals.

Moot_Geeza

Housemarque got boy'd off big time.

Minnesänger

Moot_Geeza wrote:

Housemarque got boy'd off big time.

And Team Ico are completely disqualified from this thread.

monkey

The games have to have been released on 1 October 1993 onwards. You can use a later PAL release date to justify inclusion but not a remaster/remake/retro re-release.

This is some anti-LucasArts bullshit right here.

GurtTractor

Riven
Death Stranding
Caves of Qud
NaissanceE
Subnautica
Noita
Maybe a Total War but I can't choose which one

Those are my picks for now that I can think of.

JonB

LivDiv wrote:

Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 (I would also accept 2) I thought this was a criminal omission. Firstly because it's just a really good franchise but also for the cultural impact the series had. So much of the popularity of the fashion and music of that era was linked to or inspired by THPS. There aren't many games that transcend the gaming market like THPS did.

There's a bit in the mag explaining that a number of series got screwed by split voting, THPS among them. Gran Turismo and PES were a couple of others.

JonB

12 of the top 20 I submitted ended up in the top 100. These were the other 8:

Fire Emblem: The Blazing Blade
F-Zero X
Astro Boy: Omega Factor
Celeste
Suikoden 2
Returnal
Dragon Quest IX
Humanity

regmcfly

NieR Automota
Xenoblade Chronicles X
Super Mario Maker
Forza Horizon 2
Hotline Miami
Splatoon

RamSteelwood

b0r1s wrote:

Mariokart 64 feels a bit revisionist. I'm sure they gave it something like a 7 at the time.

Snes Mario kart is what i missed off my list but meant to include

Olimite

Returnal isn’t even Housemarque’s best game, let alone an all-timer.

hylian_elf

RamSteelwood wrote:

b0r1s wrote:

Mariokart 64 feels a bit revisionist. I'm sure they gave it something like a 7 at the time.

Snes Mario kart is what i missed off my list but meant to include

That was before Edge, no?

poprock

EvilRedEye wrote:

Some suggestions arising from the ‘game everyone played and thought was great’ survey from a while ago:

A Micro Machines game (except the first one)
A WipEout game
A Super Monkey Ball game
Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved
A Bomberman game (post Oct 1993)
A Worms game
A Forza Horizon game
Sega Rally
A Puzzle Bobble/Bust-A-Move game (post Oct 1993)
A Virtua Tennis game
Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan or Elite Beat Agents
A Bishi Bashi game
Left 4 Dead 1 or 2

That’s a good list, for me. Approved.

EvilRedEye

hylian_elf wrote:

RamSteelwood wrote:

b0r1s wrote:

Mariokart 64 feels a bit revisionist. I'm sure they gave it something like a 7 at the time.

Snes Mario kart is what i missed off my list but meant to include

That was before Edge, no?

Yeah, the UK release was late 1992 and the wider PAL release was Q1 1993.

regmcfly

Fuck they didn't put a L4D on? Gettoutahere

LivDiv

JonB wrote:

LivDiv wrote:

Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 3 (I would also accept 2) I thought this was a criminal omission. Firstly because it's just a really good franchise but also for the cultural impact the series had. So much of the popularity of the fashion and music of that era was linked to or inspired by THPS. There aren't many games that transcend the gaming market like THPS did.

There's a bit in the mag explaining that a number of series got screwed by split voting, THPS among them. Gran Turismo and PES were a couple of others.

Cheers.
That helps explain that then.

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