The acoustic music discussion thread
  • Tanglewood is a very good make in terms of value for money. The company is British so they're designed here, but assembled in the far east as you'd expect for the price. My first guitar was a Tanglewood solid top dreadnaught that I got for my sixteenth birthday. I remember it was so much nicer to play than the other acoustics I tried that day. I can't remember what it cost, but it was less than £300.

    Nineteen years later it's still going strong and is still my favourite of all my instruments (the Merlin put me up to twelve!).

    When I get back from work I'll post a vid of me playing the new palour guitar so you can get some idea of how it sounds.
  • Awesome, cheers scrawl!
  • Nice vid on the previous page scrawl (and on page before it - I've caught up a bit now).  Some of (all of) the stuff being posted has made me a little sad about my guitar playing.  I had some disposable cash last year and I splashed it on two beautiful looking guitars, and although they've hardly been gathering dust it's a bit of a shame that I waste them chugging through the same riffs and routines I've known for years, and rarely adding to my extremely limited repertoire.  I enjoy myself every single time I pick them up, but I still only reach for them once a week on average, if that.  As mentioned, the acoustic is beautiful, but I realised shortly after returning from Denmark Street that I went for aesthetics and sound quality over ease of use/something that 'felt right'.  My niece gave me a pink £60 Argos guitar to tune up for her a couple of months ago, and I felt like the master & commander of barre chords while it was in the house.
  • Thank you Moot!

    I've been playing for a long time and there have been many times when I've felt stuck in a rut, just playing the same stuff over and over and feeling thoroughly bored. Sometimes I've got out of it by hearing something I really want to play and working on that, and that can kind of kick start me into learning more things that are in a similar style. John Fahey got me out of a major rut - I learned so much through trying to emulate him (pretty poorly, but still). Tackling a new instrument can help too - I started playing loads more guitar after taking up the banjo, and the same thing happened when I got a ukelele. For some reason you approach the guitar a bit differently, even if you're not trying to play the same stuff as on the other instruments.

    Short scale guitars are really easy on the fingers ain't they? That one of the nice things about ukes - actually there's no need at all to play barre chords on a uke because there are on as many strings as you have fingers.

    If you're finding the action tough on your acoustic, have you tried using lighter gauge strings and/or tuning it down a tone? You can always capo back up to standard and while keeping the extra string slackness. That's what my Dad did on my first guitar when I was struggling with barre chords.
  • metascrawl wrote:
    If you're finding the action tough on your acoustic, have you tried using lighter gauge strings and/or tuning it down a tone? You can always capo back up to standard and while keeping the extra string slackness. That's what my Dad did on my first guitar when I was struggling with barre chords.

    I considered this, and even rang a local music shop to check if they'd do it (they said yes).  Then my mate won a decent amp from Kerrang!, which he lent me, and I've been mostly chugging through stuff on 'soaring stadium solo' settings with the electric while I try to hang onto it for as long as possible.  Six months and counting, plus he's just moved, so he reckons I've got another month at least...

    Will get round to sorting the acoustic soon though, cheers.
  • Nice! It's been so long since I've rocked out on an electric guitar. Unfortunately I only have 25 watt amp so there's a limit to how 'stadium' I could possibly sound.
  • Enjoyed that.  Jim Ford meets Larry Jon Wilson (with a touch of Charlie Daniels' excellent Trudy).
  • Aye I got switched on to Jerry Reed from GTAV (
    ) - been slowly checking more stuff out since then, he's top tier, good twangy foot tappin' shit.

    Plus he's Snowman in Smokey & the Bandit.
  • Love those both Nick - no flies on that rhythm section! Foot tappin' is the word! Really infectious.

    I haven't got round to doing a vid of the new palour guitar but I will soon. I realised there's a simple but nice picking piece in open-D I've written but not recorded yet so if I YouTube that on the Tanglewood I can kill two birds with one stone, as it were.

    Tomorrow I'm going to my friend's party - she's asked me to bring an instrument and play for a while as there'll be a little stage at the place. I'd love to bring both a a guitar and a banjo but it's too far to carry two instruments. So I'm just taking the new guitar and I'm going to play some nineties tunes. I've known this person since about '96 so I reckon if I play some songs from around that time I can get a singalong going, which will hide my awful voice.

    I'm doing Polly by Nirvana (my friend's request) Smashing Pumpkins - 1979, Meat Puppets - Oh Me, Green Day - Good Riddance, - Deus - Little Arithmetics, Radiohead - No Surprises, Blur - End of a Century, and anything else people shout out that I can make a decent go of. Then I'll finish up with There is a Light that Never Goes Out.

    I'm afraid I will be very, very drunk.
  • More foot tapping (Steve Earle's son):



    Hank III:



    Also, really liking this at the mo:

  • Here's a recording of my new palour guitar as promised - like I said Nick, this may be close to what you're after from what you've said.

    The playing's very sloppy I'm afraid, I'm just not on form at all tonight.

  • Moot - I saw Justin Townes play by himself in a small pub venue near me a year or two ago. I went along knowing nothing of his music and I came away a huge fan. I felt genuinely a bit upset when it was over - I could have listened to him all night.

    This is my favourite vid of him (bonus that there's some clawhammer banjo going on here too).



    "Well when John Henry died he lay looking at the sun / he said lord take me now my work is done, lord lord" - I find that poignant beyond words.


    Gonzo - what you say has gone a bit over my head in terms of theory, which means that I'm really interested! I'll check out your link and look up some of those terms and see if I can get your meaning.

    I'm seriously thinking about learning to read music and learning some more advanced theory (I only have the very basics).
  • metascrawl wrote:
    Moot - I saw Justin Townes play by himself in a small pub venue near me a year or two ago. I went along knowing nothing of his music and I came away a huge fan. I felt genuinely a bit upset when it was over - I could have listened to him all night. This is my favourite vid of him (bonus that there's some clawhammer banjo going on here too).
    "Well when John Henry died he lay looking at the sun / he said lord take me now my work is done, lord lord"

    That was great.  I've spent hours watching KEXP online, they have some great acts on.  I've only got one JTE album so far (Harlem River Blues).  Will probably rectify that on payday.  I'm currently reading Doghouse Roses, which is a collection of short stories written by his dad.  Only started it today, but I can already tell I'll make short work of it, it started well.
  • Ooh - didn't know Steve Earl had written any fiction. Kind of makes sense that he would - he's very much a storyteller in his music. Makes sense too that short stories would be his literary form. I'll check it out.

    That's the only KEXP vid I've seen actually - I'll have a browse though their channel.
  • I done did set a up a group type thing on google + for Merlin players. I know, google +, right? But as it's going to be largely YouTube based I figured it kind of made sense, and I'm not on FB.

    Anyway, here it is: https://plus.google.com/u/0/communities/118439335147665343514

    Come troll the hell out it!
  • My acoustic is out of its case and sitting next to me.  I plan to devote a good chunk of this evening to the legendary three-chord master of light-hearted heartache, John Prine. 

    More random acoustic stuff - the lugubrious Jake Thackray, in all his glory:



    Opted for nylon strings, apparently.  My favourite of his, The Lodger, isn't on Youtube, unless you count the cover I found by someone who is considerably more annoying.
  • How you playing eb G? Only way I know how is to barre around the 8th or wherever it is, you know, near that Jimi Hendrix purple haze e chord.
  • Ah yeah that's the one I meant. Nice.

    Looks like it can be played same shape as a d7 too on the 3rd fret. In fact that d7 shape does a lot when moved around. I need to be less lazy and try new things out.
  • metascrawl wrote:
    Here's a recording of my new palour guitar as promised - like I said Nick, this may be close to what you're after from what you've said. The playing's very sloppy I'm afraid, I'm just not on form at all tonight.

    Been meaning to reply to this for ages, apologies Scrawl!

    That guitar seems just the kind that I need: wide fretboard, smallish body and cool looking to boot! Nice sound too (not as sloppy as you claim!). I'm yet to look one up in a shop but will do so soon, keep on spending the money I'm saving on dinners and socialising, like a fucking idiot.

    Anyway, seems unfair for just yourself to shoulder the burden of actually posting forum-made music in here, so here's a little jam I've been playing the last week or so, very rough 'n' ready (i.e. sloppy and a bit shit), but whadyagonado? Been working on my chopping lately, trying to get a good rhythm down. Still can't decide whether it's working, or is just annoying, but I kinda like it.

    https://soundcloud.com/tumbleweed-6/chopped-vegetables
  • Been loving me some Blind Boy Fuller lately, got to love that ragtime blues sound, can't think of anyone who did it better:



  • Never ventured past a Best Of with Jim Croce on cd, but he's got some great songs.
  • Damn I want a banjo. Have done for years now. One day.
  • Does anyone use Ultimate-guitar.com for tabs, and if so, do the pages take an infuriatingly long to to load on regular occasions?  Sometimes it's fine, a speed test suggests my (BT) connection should be flying, but I often just have to give up.  I can stream HD Youtube vids in full screen etc.  Netflix and Lovefilm don't buffer.  Is the website just crap?
  • I tend to end up there 'cause it's usually the first hit on a search. Only problem I get is massive fucking adverts on mobile although I rarely use it tbh due to, aye, the site being crap. Haven't really used proper tabs in yonks though, it's a search for chords usually.

    I mean, I never understood wanting to copy note-for-note a piece of music anyway (not saying this is you, just waffling a bit - indulge me); I know this girl who's learning guitar and she keeps posting about getting a new part of the solo to Sunshine of Your Love down when she's literally just starting to play. I haven't heard her at all but I'd very surprised if it sounds anything approaching what it should, she's better off learning the basic notes in the solo then doing a watered down but probably more soulful version that she's capable of. I used to do the same thing, check for tabs of favourite solos and try to copy them, but now I just think "fuck it", get the gist of the song then nail your own version. On the other hand, if I were good enough to copy bitchin' solos note-for-note I'd probably be all over it, I'm too lazy/not good enough.
  • nick_md wrote:
    I used to do the same thing, check for tabs of favourite solos and try to copy them, but now I just think "fuck it", get the gist of the song then nail your own version.

    I really like this guitarist's videos where she does her own thing with solos:

  • Yeah that kind of thing, more expressive and enjoyable that some carbon copy "look what I can do ma'!"

    She's good... makes me want to spend more time with my electric, find it boring though on me jacks, backing track or not. Have hit a plateau again on the ol' nylon I think, just playing the same things over and over. Need to get Escape's dusty steel string fixed to reinvigorate, been sat there for a while now. This concludes my brief summary of progress.


    Gonz - absolutely, chords first. When I started playing my mate wrote down the chords for House of the Rising Sun in tab: showed me how to read tabs and covers a lot of chords (and a good 'my first' song too). Get those down and you're sorted. Mostly.
  • nick_md wrote:
    Yeah that kind of thing, more expressive and enjoyable that some carbon copy "look what I can do ma'!"

    I can't play anything by ear and if I decided to improvise in any way the results would be tragic. Your mate's guitar practicing sounds very similar to mine. The key is most certainly to push through to a looser style and mess around, but I'm pretty sure I'll be forever stuck at "look what I can do ma! Fuck, I'll start again. Damn, once more from the top...".
  • hah! I didn't mean to sound as cuntish when I said that, I can't really do stuff by ear either. I guess what I tend to do is try something for a bit, mostly fail, pickup on one or two key bits you need to include then just noodle, improvise but make sure you hit those key-sections on the way.

    Short version of what I meant is, don't get hung up trying to emulate someone else.

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