davyK wrote:EvilRedEye wrote:It looks Labour are mulling adopting a policy on proportional representation which if it goes ahead would likely lead to an electoral pact with the Greens, Lib Dems etc. Really hope it goes ahead because it offers a decent chance of outing the Tories in the short term and ending this whole 'have to vote Labour even if they're shit to keep the Tories out' thing in the long-term.
The Blues are now every bit as repulsive as they were pre Blair/Labour. The number of hateful fucks in gov then was astounding. I was one of the many who sat up extra late just to watch cunts like Mellor and Portillo (pre-pink jacket train man) get put out. Remember that cunt Hamilton? Edwina? Fucking Tebbit? Jesus.
A blood letting like that has to be due now. The breadth of arrogance is as bad as was back then. It's hard to believe the fuckwits who vote them in haven't had a bellyfull of this incompetence. Fuel shortages now. Jesus Fuck. I want to see it pile on and start to really hurt personally. Fuck these cunts.
Yossarian wrote:Labour have been losing with centrists since Blair, it hasn’t changed their approach, I don’t see why one more loss would change that, and again, I think this whole idea that if a centrist wins the left is dead is just nonsense.
Yossarian wrote:You genuinely have no clue about my employer and the people I work with.
Diluted Dante wrote:The King of the North?monkey wrote:It’s not completely without hope. It needs one transformative leader who is popular with public to get the rest of the party to line up behind whatever they’re proposing. Unfortunately there’s no one who fits the bill.
EvilRedEye wrote:It looks Labour are mulling adopting a policy on proportional representation which if it goes ahead would...
davyK wrote:Remember that cunt Hamilton?
LivDiv wrote:Well, well.
Johnson has reportedly given his approval for visas for european HGV drivers.
Now watch them tell us to fuck off because why the hell would they bother when apparently there is a surplus of work in Europe.
Its a strange move considering this has supposedly nothing to do with Brexit.
In other news we may have asked Bolsonaro for christmas turkeys.
"We are moving to a high wage, high skilled economy and businesses will need to adapt with more investment in recruitment and training to provide long-term resilience,"
Escape wrote:Yossarian wrote:Labour have been losing with centrists since Blair, it hasn’t changed their approach, I don’t see why one more loss would change that, and again, I think this whole idea that if a centrist wins the left is dead is just nonsense.
It's rhetorical to ask if you like Blair, so can you think of an example of a nonleft leader becoming leftwing while in power? Just moving noticeably in that direction, even.
And if there's no precedent, why trust Starmer with setting one?
Yossarian wrote:You genuinely have no clue about my employer and the people I work with.
I've zero clue about the people you work with, but you often link Grun articles when Jones, Mason, Hyde, Moran and co. are poison on my leftwing Twitter feed. Some hundreds of thousands of people accused of not being cooperative enough by those significantly to their right, ensconced in our Overton as public-facing lefties.
Yossarian wrote:But, let’s zoom out a bit. What’s the point of this conversation exactly? What purpose does it serve for you to be putting me through some sort of left wing purity test here? Do you think this is somehow going to advance the cause of socialism in this country in any way shape or form?
Edit: I think I’ve worked out what you mean by moving to the left after getting into power. I don’t expect Labour to go into the next election with no policies around poverty, I expect a manifesto before an election which will contain those policies.
Yossarian wrote:Caitlin Moran has been writing for the Times since 1992.
acemuzzy wrote:BORIS HAS SAVED CHRISTMAS!
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