Cos Red Bull and F1 just wanted Max to win it.Paul the sparky wrote:What happened yesterday was such bollocks. Why wasn't Sainz in 3rd allowed to get in on the action?
or they hadn't gifted max the win in spa by....running behind a safety car for just 2 laps then declaring the race finished.acemuzzy wrote:Also he wouldn't have had more wins if ham had been given the win yesterday...
Webbins wrote:Which is why there should be no direct contact from the pit wall to the director. Masi is weak, Horner is a cunt.
Paul the sparky wrote:What happened yesterday was such bollocks. Why wasn't Sainz in 3rd allowed to get in on the action?
Diluted Dante wrote:Brundle asked Massi before the race if there would be a red flag in this situation and he said no. I suspect thats where it came from. Which is actually the right decision. Red flags aren't there to give a thrilling climax to a title fight. They're used on safety grounds. A barrier needs repairing, a third of the field just crashed into each other on a restart, we've done 2 laps behind the safety car thus fulfilling the requirements of a race, things like that.
Webbins wrote:Which is why there should be no direct contact from the pit wall to the director. Masi is weak, Horner is a cunt.
in 'my argument' there though they'd have gone quickly to red flag if the VSC wasn't up to the job, and then we'd have had a couple of laps racing on fairer tyres (either both changed under red flag or neither doing so under VSC or red flag). i still think in that scenario max would prob win, but at least it would feel like a fair fight and not a setup.jdanielp wrote:Fair point, although intentional misintepretation of the official rules isn't there to give a thrilling climax either. I imagine that Ram's argument for getting rid of safety cars wouldn't be considered on the basis of the VSC not giving enough clear track time each lap for marshals to do their job in as safe as possible conditions (and the loss of sponsorship money from the manufacturer providing the safety car of course...).Diluted Dante wrote:Brundle asked Massi before the race if there would be a red flag in this situation and he said no. I suspect thats where it came from. Which is actually the right decision. Red flags aren't there to give a thrilling climax to a title fight. They're used on safety grounds. A barrier needs repairing, a third of the field just crashed into each other on a restart, we've done 2 laps behind the safety car thus fulfilling the requirements of a race, things like that.
mistercrayon wrote:Webbins wrote:Which is why there should be no direct contact from the pit wall to the director. Masi is weak, Horner is a cunt.
I don’t think so. I think it’s clear the rules are not fit to handle situations of nuance so it makes sense for both involved parties to have a say and a third person to make a decision.
If you think Wolff didn’t have a say in Hamilton only needed to recede a few tenths of a second when he kept his place then you’re deluded.
Also if that decision didn’t play a part in conceding a bit for red bull I’d eat my (ice cream cone wafer) hat.
Eric wrote:Just ban pit stops under the safety car unless you were involved in the reason for the safety car I guess. .
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