davyK wrote:We keep hearing the population is getting older. So is it that big a deal to be serving that?
Funkstain wrote:Also surely I don't need to say this in here but advertising is the literal work of the devil, one of the roots of human evil, and anything that preserves any content without it needs cherishing
Funkstain wrote:And you’re arguing about linear vs streaming and actual content. Both of these seem irrelevant to the argument of whether license fee is good thing or not.
Content can evolve and change and chances can be taken as has happened every time with the BBC over the years and decades. It’s more difficult to take risks as a commercial broadcaster.
Linear vs streaming is irrelevant to the question of funding because both require funding
Funkstain wrote:And you’re arguing about linear vs streaming and actual content. Both of these seem irrelevant to the argument of whether license fee is good thing or not.
poprock wrote:Funkstain wrote:Also surely I don't need to say this in here but advertising is the literal work of the devil, one of the roots of human evil, and anything that preserves any content without it needs cherishing
Right lads, I’ve been busy crushing souls in the devil’s industry this afternoon, but I’m back to drop a straight-up FACT for you.
In 2021, across all demographics and audiences in the UK, actual broadcast television still accounted for 61% of all entertainment viewed. Traditional TV still has more than double the audience of all other forms of entertainment combined. Yes, that does include streaming, YouTube, gaming, etc. Broadcast TV is still the king, by far. Don’t fuck with the king.
(Stat from Ofcom, btw.)
GurtTractor wrote:Funkstain wrote:And you’re arguing about linear vs streaming and actual content. Both of these seem irrelevant to the argument of whether license fee is good thing or not.
I started talking about streaming in regards to your point about the license fee helping to fund infrastructure, as I'm pretty sure Freeview has already peaked and will die in the coming decade or two I don't know how valid this point is any more as an argument for the fee. It seems like it would make more sense for the BBC to focus on software infrastructure and innovation, new platforms or something perhaps, but it's hard to see how they can compete on a technical level now.
GurtTractor wrote:Funkstain wrote:And you’re arguing about linear vs streaming and actual content. Both of these seem irrelevant to the argument of whether license fee is good thing or not.
I started talking about streaming in regards to your point about the license fee helping to fund infrastructure, as I'm pretty sure Freeview has already peaked and will die in the coming decade or two I don't know how valid this point is any more as an argument for the fee. It seems like it would make more sense for the BBC to focus on software infrastructure and innovation, new platforms or something perhaps, but it's hard to see how they can compete on a technical level now.
acemuzzy wrote:61% is less than double 39% so I call shenanigans on your so called FACT
poprock wrote:Right lads, I’ve been busy crushing souls in the devil’s industry this afternoon, but I’m back to drop a straight-up FACT for you. In 2021, across all demographics and audiences in the UK, actual broadcast television still accounted for 61% of all entertainment viewed. Traditional TV still has more than double the audience of all other forms of entertainment combined. Yes, that does include streaming, YouTube, gaming, etc. Broadcast TV is still the king, by far. Don’t fuck with the king. (Stat from Ofcom, btw.)Also surely I don't need to say this in here but advertising is the literal work of the devil, one of the roots of human evil, and anything that preserves any content without it needs cherishing
Overall, the average time spent viewing broadcast TV in 2020 was 3 hours 12 minutes per person. This was nine minutes (5%) higher than the average time spent in 2019, and reversed the declining trend seen over the last decade. However, this increase was entirely driven by those aged over 45, with the pandemic not shifting broadcast TV viewing levels for those under 45, who watched less broadcast TV than in 2019. 1 Overall, the net effect was a fall in broadcast TV’s share of total viewing during 2020, from 67% in 2019 to 61% in 2020.
Funkstain wrote:Right but then iPlayer then And digital telly lasted for about twenty years so far and probably has another decade or so left so that’s a whole generation benefit. You can’t say “pah old fashioned architecture why is that argument”, it happened at the time and it was vitalGurtTractor wrote:I started talking about streaming in regards to your point about the license fee helping to fund infrastructure, as I'm pretty sure Freeview has already peaked and will die in the coming decade or two I don't know how valid this point is any more as an argument for the fee. It seems like it would make more sense for the BBC to focus on software infrastructure and innovation, new platforms or something perhaps, but it's hard to see how they can compete on a technical level now.Funkstain wrote:And you’re arguing about linear vs streaming and actual content. Both of these seem irrelevant to the argument of whether license fee is good thing or not.
Yossarian wrote:Being a trusted source of news is pretty vital.
poprock wrote:One in 16 people worldwide use BBC news one way or another.
nick_md wrote:It's trueOnly ConnectVictoria Coren is loved the world over, I'm sure.
acemuzzy wrote:ANYWAY ... Cummings going for the kill: https://twitter.com/Dominic2306/status/1483129651975315459?t=sx1mmRPY2EIiwheWMuueHA&s=19
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