Thinking about it, ease of creating raster vs vector varies based on personal inclination. Knowing both Photoshop and Illustrator to a moderate degree, I'd find it much easier making a logo in the latter and reckon it would have been the same back in my first year of Uni.

Vector is of course the correct way to do things.
If the question was "I want to get into logo design what software should I look at?" Then absolutely Illustrator.

For an amateur looking for a quick result on a simple text with straight lines logo. Photoshop (and like) seem enough to me, especially as it can do those things vector. PS is generally easier to pick up as there are relatable things to working it like Word or Paint. I just think Kow will get the result he wants quicker and easier in PS over Illustrator.
Just make it 4k resolution, when it comes to printing it on a banner to hang off a bridge, well cross that bridge when you come to it.

Best thing, get the the 30 day trial of Illustrator and PS then maybe have a play in both.

I did think that.
Free for mates on little jobs is fine.
I could do with the Illustrator training so wouldn't mind taking it on, I couldn't charge for my Illustrator skills currently anyway.
(I realise this totally counters my points above)

ITS A GOD DAMN LOGO OFFFFFFFFFF

Thanks for all the offers but we really need to do it ourselves (it won't be me actually doing the drawing part anyway) as it is work in process and we'll be designing it as we go rather than having a finished idea to draw up immediately.

Ever have one of ‘those’ clients, who just don’t read things you send them?

I just received proofs of some signs for a building, that the sign contractor has drawn up themselves. They’re 70mm high. The rest of the signs in the building interior, that I designed, are all 75mm high. So I dropped the client a line and suggested that maybe she should ask that these be redrawn to 75mm, so they match.

Her response?

“Oh no, I can’t make these any smaller.”

Now, I don’t know how her tape measure works, but 75mm is usually bigger than 70mm.

LivDiv: Hey, the time you have allocated to this job seems quite long for just moving some boxes from an old job. Do you want me to design up totally new units?

Handler: Yes if you can in time that would be great.

*Designs units, sends over designs.*

24 hours later

Handler: What are these units in the space.

LivDiv: The new units I have designed.

Handler: Its suppose to be just the boxes from the old design.

*adds another half day to the bill*

Yeah, unfortunately I rang her instead.
Whatevs, I will just bill for however long it takes, they never question my timings at this place. In fact the only time they did was the creative director insisting I must have spent longer than I billed on it and to add more time against it.

It's the one place I have ever worked where the opinion of creatives trumps that of project handlers.

I have not filled in a timesheet since starting my current job, back in April. It’s liberating.

The only time I do them now is if I go into this same place.
They have a schedule designer that maps out your day anyway so if things go to plan its a simple job to do timesheets. Plus they insist on doing it everyday and hound you the next day so it doesn't snowball. They also encourage tracking of down and overtime time rather than punishing it or attempting to doctor the figures.

My old job was a nightmare. 3 directors flitting in and out of the studio all day, insisting their job is important and everything else needs dropping. Impossible to properly track time.

poprock wrote:

I have not filled in a timesheet since starting my current job, back in April. It’s liberating.

Best bit of being freelance. That and not being subjected to Danny’s music. NO ONE LIKES YOUR MUSIC DANNY.

Went to the Royal Academy Klimt/Schiele drawings/sketches exhibition today. 
If you are arty the raw talent on display is ridiculous. 
The lines, the forms, the volume suggested by a simple pencil stroke is maddeningly deft. I'm so jealous.
Klimt's drawings have incurrence modern designers, Schiele's figure have influenced countless modern illustrators and comic book artists like Bill Sienckiwicz - absolutely brilliant. 
 
https://www.royalacademy.org.uk/exhibition/klimt-schiele

I'm getting that sinking feeling.

I'll just do it then bill them to fix it as well.

Gino Ginnelli