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Escape wrote:

We could think about a community Switch if there's enough demand. For those of us who can't afford/justify one but wouldn't mind a few weeks with Odyssey or whatever.

I'd lend you my Switch if you covered postage mate.

Or Jon, whoever. Its been sat on the floor for a month.

I DISAGREE.

/jk

I might be able to afford CP for the first time in a couple of years, though. When was our last?

Feels like 2014.

He writes a good apology letter.

Serious though who wants to lend a Switch

Escape wrote:

ME ME ME

I'm not that fussed, really, but if Jon's keen and there's a community vibe around a share...

Davie? Someone'd get a discount Switch at the end of it after the rest of us had contributed for loans.

What genuinely wonderful people you all are.
We've had many charity drives over the years. We've raised money for sick children, we've adopted bears and badgers, we've bought consoles for friends, we've raised money for our bros going through hard times, and we've even helped pay for the funeral of one of our own.
And what all these things have in common is that they've all been great successes and have all exceeded any reasonable expectations.

You see I'm a cynic. I've got a big heart, but I'm a cynic. Almost always I sit on the sidelines waiting for one of these endeavours to fail. To fall apart. To drive a wedge through the community that can't be repaired.

That's because charity is a delicate flower of a thing. However noble the cause, however well-intentioned the thought behind it, there is always a more deserving cause that goes unmentioned in it's wake.
But where does that leave us? Do we never give to anything because there's always something or someone else arguably more deserving? Do we argue with each other about which cause is more deserving? Do we all fall out and close the forums? Apparently not.

Which brings me back to the previous paragraph. I'm a cynic, and while I wait in the sidelines expecting the worst, and wondering how the hell I'll try and sort out the mess, I've always been proved wrong.
The good members of this forum have put their hands in their pockets to help out on a multitude of occasions, and every time all reasonable expectations have been exceeded. You are a truly wonderful bunch. Nobody is pressured, nobody is coerced. You just put your hands in your pockets and give a little when you think it's a cause that deserves it.
This is another beautiful thing that's virtually unique to our little corner of the internet.
Time and again you see these sort of well intentioned crusades destroying entire communities. But not here apparently.

Me? I'm probably like most of you. Sometimes I give a little money. Sometimes I don't. I don't have a rule of thumb, and I don't have a list of people who I think are deserving causes. I just give some money when it feels like the right thing to do.

Now perhaps you'll all go on to by Jon a Switch, and a cuddly toy and a Ferrari, or perhaps you won't (I know what I'm betting on with this one), but I can appreciate and understand the thought behind Tempy's suggestion. I think when you've been the recipient of one of these beautiful things, there's a desire to want to pay it forward, so to speak. That just seems perfectly natural to me.
But on this occasion, I won't be donating. 
Now I would normally never discuss this sort of thing on the forum, but as we're apparently having this conversation I'll make an exception this time. 
I don't feel at this moment in time my helping to buy a Switch for Jon would improve his life in any significant way, and I suspect he might agree with that. Simple as that.

So anyway, keep on being your wonderful selves. If you feel the urge to give folk a helping hand, then by all means do just that, and if you don't, well the world generally continues to spin regardless.

As a final note, I'm going to unsticky this thread now (which is something I was going to do this weekend anyway). Hopefully we've helped to keep Tempy in rice and beans for a little while longer, and thank you all once again for your kind donations.

keep on keeping on

g.man

legaldinho wrote:

there is no system for inclusiveness or fairness.

It seems that we've run out of free-console charity now. I don't know what Jon's situation is, but if he's no way of affording a Switch and fancies them funny JRPGs or whatever, it does feel a wee bit conspicuous.

(Fuck you, Jon.)

I was thinking Jon, because I know a few of us only fancy playthroughs of certain games. I'd pay something like £40 for a month with Odyssey. If we could get a train going...

Is that what your webcam customers like?

Gonz is clearly pro-charity. I think you're having a go at the wrong person there.

Don't disagree with what you've said.

He felt the excess should've been used differently, yes, not that it shouldn't have been donated.