I don’t think I’ll ever beat the heart. Almost always battered by the guard tentacles

I remember punching the air when I finally beat the heart so I get that high feeling.

Just had my first ‘Victory?’

Ascension unlocked. 

Was with Ironclad. Against Timekeeper. Was really easy somehow? Maybe I chose right cards. Will post pic, but I had pyramid relic which helped me as I kept the cards in hand until I could get a good combo like Spot Weakness and Flex and Limit Break and then do an attack for mega damage. It was Fiend of Fire or something that did it for me. 10 cards in my hand, high strength, mega damage per card.

So it was on my 30th run, as follows:

I'll punt on flex any day with upgraded limit break in play.

Grats Elf!!!

It's hard to be succinct, but the best advice I can give is don't try and work towards a winning condition in a deck. A good deck is built to tackle the next challenge it will face as efficiently as possible, that way you get more chances to pick cards and relics. Don't pick cards just because they fit an archetype, pick the cards you need. Block, AoE, card draw, scaling damage: that sort of stuff is your bread and butter and just because you're running poison with the Silent doesn't mean you should be ignoring something like Cloak and Dagger which sounds like a Shiv card, but in reality is just a good all around strong card that synergises with lots of things cards and relics very well.

It's definitely worth learning more about the strong cards that each class has, watch a few overexplained videos by Jorbs to see what thought processes are worth going through when picking cards and playing. People here play more than I do (especially as I've been away from home for over a month) but the idea you don't get a chance to cultivate a deck is something you just have to banish from your mind when playing, you make your own luck in the spire.

I am very happy for his success, but he said he "maybe chose the right cards" which feeds back into my advice to Syph, the only "right cards" are the ones that win you the game in that run, some mild criticism on picking stuff like Flex which frequently shows early game thanks to the way rarity works isn't tearing him down.

If I can beat the Spire, any sod can.

Syph79 wrote:

Anyone want to give me some general advice on this. I’ve got to the 3rd section, but no further than the start of that - I was woefully under spec’ed. Do I just play it and hope that the cards and relics fall to me, or should I be trying to cultivate a deck that works? I’m guessing it’s the latter, but I don’t get much chance to do that on a standard play through.

Yeah wot Tempy said - build for the next challenge, so build incrementally based on the deck you have now and think about only the act you're currently on. It's hard not to take a rare card that might be cool later but doesn't work with the cards you have now, you must be disciplined and resist. It's important to get to know the elites in each act so you can try and prepare for them based on weaknesses in your deck, by choosing certain cards or saving certain potions.

Resting, or not, is a skill that I am only just getting the hang of. It’s knowing the potential next fight and what type of damage you can expect. Not resting and upgrading is generally the way to go once you either know the odds (which I don’t) or generally feel you are ok (which I kind of do) with the next fight.

Nice one Elf. And first win against Time Keeper of all of the final bosses is to be applauded.

Think it depends on which character and your deck choice. Corpse Explosion plus deca/docu easiest for me. I don't mind Ascended One, but not with Defect as the Defect has too many great power cards. TK obviously wrecks people playing shivs or claws.

Roujin wrote:

Time keeper is an interesting boss, imho hes the hardest to beat by miles when you're starting out, but once you're used to it I think he's the easiest of the Act 3 bosses to beat.

Yeah I thought he was a bit too easy but it’s the first time I played him. Struggled a lot more against Act 2 bosses. His gimmick seemed easy to work into your plans/strategy? I mean I had 4 energy so every 12 turned was the end of my turn anyway. And small increase of strength every 3 turns seems minor?

Makes sense. I did end up with turns where it was useless and taking up a slot.

Yeah I’ve been keeping eye out for that but never had it.