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  • It's a good way to look at it but I still would've preferred more of the same from a sequel if I'm honest. Forever is the best runner I've played though, it really is superbly designed. The dark stages aren't as rewarding unfortunately - might be my lack of runner skills but they feel too hard too early, whereas Meat Boy gets everything right.

    I remain convinced muzzy would like it if he got stuck in.
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    I wouldn't say no to a properly developed level extension pack for Meat Boy but it would need some new hazards introduced. Not too many - it's amazing what the devs achieved while being sparing with the gimmicks.  Hated those fucking big black mouths that chased you and exploded though.
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    I might give forever another go at some point, we'll see...
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    Just one more Cotton Alley light level to get A+ on. Of course that's the nightmarish level 20!  

    Got another Dark Level notched up too.

    To Do Checklist:

    ch.5-1 warp
    ch.5-17X bandage
    ch.5-8X bandage
    ch.5-??X bandage
    ch.5 character warp to find
    ch.5 glitch warp

    ch.6 glitch warp

    ch.7-20 A+
    ch.7-9X, 7-10X, 7-13X thru 7-20X
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    Getting past the 1st section of the ch.5 glitch zone. Dear God the next bit looks nightmarish.




    Put some time in on the 5-1 warp. Getting a bit further but the precision demand is tight. Very misleading levels - they look so simple.
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    Ahh, the memories...
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    GGGNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!

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    at last.  Got the ch.5-8X bandage too. Had to look up which 2 levels had them in a guide - I KNEW IT WOULD BE IN 8!!!   :(   There's one in 5-18X but haven't found it yet. I had kind of hoped it wouldn't be in 18 because it's one those ones with a pile of bullets in it.....figures. I reckon I was in denial about it as I had searched the other levels high and low. I found the bandage in 5-17X myself and it will be no walk in the park either :)

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    ch.5-1 warp
    ch.5-17X bandage
    ch.5-8X bandage
    ch.5-18X bandage
    ch.5 character warp to find
    ch.5 glitch warp

    ch.6 glitch warp

    ch.7-20 A+
    ch.7-9X, 7-10X, 7-13X thru 7-20X
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    Having a go at ch.5-1 warp. Progress is slow. Can't get consistent enough on that first level which is so misleading as to the precision required.
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    Got the ch.5-warp done.  I found the 1st section more difficult than sections 2 and 3.  It looks so innocuous too. Untold death count for this bloody thing. Another 2 bandages. 

    Have still to find the character warp which I think is The Kid.  The ch.6 glitch warp has disappeared off the map - looks like I have to unlock it again. I hope that's not a bug and I will be able to .... it isn't that hard to unlock.




    To do:-

    ch.5-17X bandage
    ch.5-18X bandage
    ch.5-20X warp
    ch.5 character warp to find

    ch.6 glitch warp

    ch.7-20 A+
    ch.7-9X, 7-10X, 7-13X thru 7-20X
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    ch.5-18X bandage gone. Once you saw where it was it wasn't too bad!!!



    3 bandages left.
    Making progress in the 5-20X warp. Getting the 2 bandages is OK - getting to the end of the 3rd section is quite another. :)

    5-17X is going to be a grind. The bandage is behind a wall you have to trick a missile into taking out and then the rest of the level is of similar style . Royal pain in the hole!!
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    Last "normal" bandage got in 5-17X

    The trick is figuring out how to get the missile to consistently aim for where the bandage is locked away. It's actually not that bad once you see how to do it.

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    And there it is .... bandages 99 and 100....  Got the ch.6 glitch zone cleared too!


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    Unlocked the Kid warp level in ch.5 Oh my. It's that one.  :)

    Will move back to Cotton Alley now for a while.

    To do:-

    5-7 warp (!)

    7-20 A+
    7-9X 
    7-10X 
    7-13X
    7-14X
    7-15X
    7-16X
    7-17X
    7-18X
    7-19X
    7-20X
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    You're getting there mate!

    Once those are done, iron man or gtfo
  • What do you have to do for iron man? I never went bandage hunting, just light & dark worlds.
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    Beat a chapter - all 20 levels - with no deaths. I've done ch.1 light world Iron Man.  I reckon I could do ch.1 Dark but that would be my limit.

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  • Yeah I've done the first chapter without dying but I'd have no interest in anything further than that.
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    Iron Man runs don't add to your game percentage. When/if(!) I hit 106% I'm done.
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    7-10X done.

    7-9X has me baffled. No idea how to do this. One of those vertical track levels - they throw you into the air but I can't see how I can avoid the buzzsaw above it.

    Moved on - tackling 7-13X which is a real hand killer. It's a rising tide level and by far the toughest of its type yet. Exquisite touch and timing needed here... My hand is clawed...but I'm making progress with it.

    Went back and redid ch.6 glitch level as it's such a nice tribute to the airship in SMB3. Wasn't recording when I cleared it first. I make heavier weather of it here than I did originally  :)

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    1hr + 2hrs today grinding fucking 7-13X.  Have been right to the end enough times.  95% of 3hrs has been spent just being fucking stupid. My hand is completely fucked.  This is the first real proper wall I have hit.
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  • Keep at it. As a fairweather Meatboy fan I'm enjoying the progress updates.
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    Oh I will. In a weird way I am enjoying it. It's rare for me to find a game I will stick at like this.
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    3hrs today and at least an hour last night ....

    Short clip of the pain - I've selected a clip where I am one jump away - have maybe got here 3 or 4 times over the last 3 hrs of trying.

    God help me....

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    Earlier in the thread has me posting very similar vids lol. The pain, the pain!
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    Yeah....your video of the kid warp levels. A nightmare that waits me.....
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    I don't know what is keeping me at this game.

    Level 13 of Cotton Alley Dark world.  Got it after another hour and 20mins of grind this evening.  That's over 5hrs trying to perform something that takes 21seconds.

    I thought this level was going to defeat me because I had got to the point where a correct jump didn't feel any different to a wrong jump at a conscious level. Maybe that's were subconscious muscle memory really does kick in.

    This is also the only time I have felt in the zone on a platformer. For short passages - there were times I was performing perfect sequences of jumps without really thinking about.

    The time pressure is what made this so difficult of course - forcing to make a series of jumps where the margin for error is so small.

    Thank fuck this is done.

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    I had to leave it yesterday. RSI was real possibility after the 1hr and 2hr sessions I put in on this one level on Saturday. Woke up with very slight pins and needles in my finger tips and stiffness in the right hand and soreness on the back of the hand. Probably gripping the pad too tight. Bastard of a game.

    I'm at 104% now. So taking the 6% off for the glitch levels I've cleared that puts me at 98% "proper".

    Still 9 levels of Cotton Alley to beat + The Kid Warp Zone.  109hrs on the game clock.
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    Got 7-9X done. Wasn't too bad in the end.

    So Cotton Alley Dark 14-20 and Light 20A+ to do.

    Had a another go at the The Kid Warp. Making some progress with that - can get half way through the first level without too much trouble. The transition to the second half with the horizontal passages is tough. Haven't quite figured it out yet. :)
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