Is there a clear point of no return in the game? I too, like MattyJ, am just enjoying clearing out side mission, gang and police icons. I’m right at the beginning of act two with either going to meet ‘T’ or go to the ‘A’ Club. Can I go a bit further with act two but still keep doing the side missions?

Presumably allowing a handy restart point from which the DLC can be staged from.

Anyone looking forward to the DLC?

I’ve just hit the point of no return, and I still have a huge amount of side stuff to do.
I’m still waiting for several people to ring me back with further missions.
I hope they aren’t bugged.
And I think there’s some large side missions i haven’t even triggered the meetings with yet.

Made me feel a little glum when I hit the point of no return today. I kind skulked off and half heartedly did some other stuff.

Kill everyone.

pantyfire wrote:

Kill everyone.

Yeah it was a weird situation.

This is why it’s best to go in dark.

mistercrayon wrote:

This is why it’s best to go in dark.

I knew absolutely nothing going in, read (next to) nothing whilst playing.

Worked out a dream.

mistercrayon wrote:

Yeah it was a weird situation.

Spoiler:

They big up both and then it becomes nothing. The most unglorious chainsaw used for editing I suspect!

It's the diamond narrative structure. I bet it was absolutely designed that way to keep things reined in. Game presents same illusion of carving one's own narrative that The Walking Dead did a decade ago.

One of the best games I've ever played, this. Have it up ye.

I'm team Sparky, game massively underdelivered on what was promised. Great that it's being enjoyed by some but it's a let down for me.

I see posts like that then I see elsewhere others who've played it through 2/3 times already and they're saying that choices made do count and wrap it up very neatly. Horse for courses and that, guess I'll see at the end of playthrough.

Paul the sparky wrote:

Ignoring the jank (I'm a seasoned veteran of turning a blind eye to stuff like you hovering alongside our chopper instead of riding inside it in Ghost Recon etc. so that's not too much of an issue for me), it's still not what they were suggesting it was going to be and I can't see past that

Yeah, I'm not suggesting for a minute that you're wrong, but it maybe helps me that I'm not an RPG guy, have never played a CDPR game, and didn't really know much about the game other than the setting and a few brief gameplay videos. Only expectations for me were that I really liked the look of the world they were creating.
That being said, I did find the first 10 or so hours a painful experience, and that wasn't because of the jank, that was more because the game does such a piss poor job of explaining itself to the new player. You are literally reduced to finding videos on YouTube that explain how all the various systems work, how the missions integrate into the world, and basically what the actual fuck you are meant to be doing other than the main mission. For me, (and I'm fortunate cos I've got the SeX version, which looks pretty good) that's where it really falls down as a package. You absolutely just have to push through this nonsense in the hope it's all going to come together at some point. Fortunately for me it has. I'm probably close to 60hrs in now, and I'm absolutely enamoured with the game. The gameplay is far from revolutionary, I've gamed the system to get several million credits in the bank, and I've also got a bunch of gear that sees me through most encounters, but again, that's another failing of the game. The piss-poor pacing of the stat-unlocking and your lack of earning power. 
It just hampers your enjoyment, cos you just ain't got the creds to by the stuff you want/need. 
Filling my wallet by nefarious means, has given me the opportunity to kick back and enjoy everything at my own pace, and it also means I can ignore much of the guff that exists in the game only to grind out your stats.
It's almost like CDPR didn't have the confidence in their main story being on the short side, so they artificially padded it out by slowing your earning progress. If this is the case, then they were wrong. They should absolutely just have given you the tools you need at a fair lick, and let you get on with it, because it's an intoxicating world when you can view it at your own pace.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again, where it shines is with the sense of place, the people you meet along the way, and the stories you share with them. That's what makes it special for me.
Definitely not for everyone tho.

@G - as I said in my write up, the one thing I would go back for is a drive through the city. The way it comes and goes into the desert is genuinely incredible.

I think Reg is right in his critique - it is more a narrative adventure game for sure. Great that people are enjoying it, but it's no Dues Ex (vanilla) that's for fucking sure.