Yes - I'd ignore the region - even though I was in the dark at that time re 50/60Hz etc. The PAL Megadrive is an even worse experience than the PAL SNES as some 1st party games at least got a bit of optimisation from Nintendo. Have a look at PAL Sonic 1 - it is an atrocious port.

Those early SMW shots are awesome - haven't seen those before.

What about PS1 v Saturn?  Back in the day this was quite one sided - but to look at them today and consider import titles then it may be an interesting comparison to make considering the best each has to offer.

I guess PS1 would edge it on the sheer size of its catalogue but the Saturn is generally misunderstood by many - its 2D titles are staggeringly good and in a class of their own.

davyK wrote:

What about PS1 v Saturn?  Back in the day this was quite one sided - but to look at them today and consider import titles then it may be an interesting comparison to make considering the best each has to offer.

I guess PS1 would edge it on the sheer size of its catalogue but the Saturn is generally misunderstood by many - it's 2D titles are staggeringly good and in a class of their own.

The Saturn did very well in Japan, even outselling the PS1 for most of it's lifespan (Sega moved to Dreamcast fairly quickly as the console had sold poorly elsewhere), so there's a decent catalogue of titles never released in the west.

It's also difficult to emulate, so it's games rarely get ported.

It also hosted Panzer Dragoon Saga.... wow!

I remember watching my bro slog through Bahamut Lagoon in Japanese. He doesn't read any Japanese.

That must have been hard for him.

I had PS1 followed by N64, got to Saturn late; it is a great system with some great games.

If someone else wants to start a PS vs Saturn vs N64 thread.... feel free!

I'm not being held accountable

Define winner.

For me:
N64
PS2
PS3

GBA sucks

retroking1981 wrote:

GBA sucks

My shoebox filled with 73 great games says otherwise.  The DS didn't do it for me.

Moot_Geeza wrote:

The GBA Micro is the best handheld console ever.

FTFY

I have long held the belief that no "console war" brings out more emotion that the SNES/MD one - and while a lot is said here tongue in cheek the response has been emotive and quite impressive 20 odd years on - I don't think a discussion on another gen would attract as much attention.

I'm guessing it's because the PS1 brought gaming to the mainstream. People tend to be far more passionate about more niche activities.

Have agree with EvilRedEye. The GBA is great piece of hardware (unless you count its dreadful first iteration for which you needed more light that exists in the universe to see about 20% of the screen) and has Treasure's Astroboy in its catalog which is one of the finest pieces of entertainment ever created in any medium (thanks to yoss for introducing me that one, it's in my top five games for sure). But I played Astroboy on my DS, while also playing so many incredible DS titles such as New Super Mario Brothers, Mario Kart DS, Bangai-O Spirits, and, well I'm not going to get into lists here, you get the picture.

I never upgraded from my ugly old first generation DS, and I'm glad of it because last year I got a 3DS which would have made any DS Lite or DSi I'd invested in obsolete along with my old grey asymmetrical thing - which still works just fine and which I now use now to play mutiplayer DS stuff with friends by hooking it up wirelessly with my new shiny blue machine and ruling Mario Kart. Loving New Super Mario 2 to death on that thing too, and 3D without glasses still makes me think I'm living in the future, even if doesn't add much really. I just think about how blown away my fifteen year old self would be if I knew what the future held in that regard.

mk64 wrote:

Elf on a side note. I know your methodology isn't to everyone's liking but briefly looking at the lists how does the n64 hold up against the ps1? OoT vs ffvii I suppose.

Had a quick look with tired eyes. Pretty evens. Not quite the annihilation that the SNES gave the MD.

Yossarian wrote:

I don't know about that. According to Wiki, Sony have sold more PS1s than Ninty have Wiis, although they're both about double the SNES. Fair play, Sony's had longer to sell them and the Wii probably will end up outselling it by a small amount, but I reckon it's fair to say that they're both mainstream consoles. @Workid.

Yeah true, but Wii has definitely spread gaming wider. My parents bought a Wii FFS.